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    Post  mudra on Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:53 pm

    Who 'Provoked And Destabilized' North Korea? China?
    Written by Daniel McAdams
    Monday April 17, 2017

    President Trump's National Security Advisor, H.R. McMaster said over the weekend that North Korea's behavior is "provocative and destabilizing" in the region. This while the US is in the process of parking an "armada" of warships off of North Korea's coast. President Trump has shown that he will not hesitate to use military force as a first option when facing what he views as threats overseas and he shows little interest in involving Congress in the matter. But who is really provoking whom? We discuss in today's Liberty Report:

    Who 'Provoked And Destabilized' North Korea? China?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ujgDPSexLE


    As President Trump reportedly considers "kinetic military action" against North Korea, we must look at how we got to this point. What are we doing in the region? Is a US first-strike the solution to North Korea's nuclear ambitions?

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    Post  mudra on Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:10 pm

    Trump declares possiibility of major conflict with North Korea

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ONjVSTREGVA


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    Post  mudra on Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:10 am

    THE U.S. IS PREPARING FOR WAR WITH NORTH KOREA - Global War May Be Imminent!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKL4GqUDj5k


    Josh Sigurdson breaks down the latest news on North Korea as the U.S. senate meets to decide on the future of North Korea.
    This looks like deja vu for many as global tensions rise.
    China has sent 150,000 troops to the North Korean border in order to allegedly help with refugees if the United States strikes. Russia is allegedly placing a navy arsenal around the northern border.
    Japan has sent warships to apparently fight alongside US warships which, including the USS Carl Vinson among other fleets have finally actually made their way to the Korean peninsula as well as the Sea of Japan following a major miscommunication in recent weeks.
    The US Airforce has also released a video meant to intimidate North Korea, showing their overnight tests launch of an unarmed Minuteman III ICBM from Vanderberg Air Force base near Lompoc in California, in what was a clear signal of nuclear deterrence aimed squarely at North Korea.
    The media is also normalizing the reality of nuclear war as networks like NBC do pieces on how to protect yourself in a blast.

    It must be mentioned that North Korea hardly has enough money to fuel more than a few jets at a time, not to mention that it's likely most, if not all of the missiles shown in the recent North Korean parade in Pyongyang were in reality fake.
    The question in all of this madness is, who benefits? Well, the military industrial complex and the monetary system. They need a war to survive and perpetuate the global governing powers, if not strengthen them, perpetuating the script we've watched play out for far too long.

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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:56 am

    I continue to think this sort of thing is scripted. I found it interesting that Josh from World Alternative Media mentioned that we might've been in WWIII since 9/11/2001. Catherine Austin Fitts recently spoke of WWIII extending from 2001 to 2025. I find the 2025 date interesting, in light of a short video clip from the Babylon 5 Series. Notice all of the dates mentioned. I keep wondering if they're significant?! Babylon 5 was made from 1993 to 1998.

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    Post  mudra on Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:24 pm

    Interesting point of view Oxy.I sort of like the idea of life being scripted like a video game with each of us playing it the number of times necessary to crack it.

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    Post  Carol on Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:54 pm


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmUFBVcp3Ms
    Greg Hunter-Weekly News Wrap-Up 4.28.17


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    Post  NANUXII on Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:51 pm

    im am betting on NO WAR , its sabre rattling to bring Trump into influence.

    its tricky out there , how hard skinned is Trump ? can he resist the shenanigans of FF attacks ?

    his response was needed , it was reportedly in accurate , 59 missiles and only 22 hitting anything of significance ? its a publicity stunt to galvanise the American people.

    distractions ...

    whats really going on ?


    desperate measures to keep power ... its really getting interesting now ...

    hold on , it may just get a little bit stranger


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    Post  Carol on Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:39 pm

    I agree. I just don't sense war as the end result. What I do see is both China and Russia stepping up to the plate to have assert influence over NK. However, I would not be surprised if there were some future attempts on Kim's life.


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    Post  mudra on Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:19 pm

    URGENT update about North Korea

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Zjv_eRMhs


    We’re In DEEP—Kim Just Did Something Naughty & Trump’s TICKED—A Bloody Truth Revealed By

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5alfnr3w9Q


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    Post  JoeEcho on Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:03 pm

    How often does the war drum beat this loudly without some serious consequences in loss of life, destruction and/ or economic impact NOT occur?

    The fan better be ready for some S, H, I, T.

    Who wants another violent conflict in the world? I certainly don't!

    It seems to me that the powers that are involved could shut this whole thing down quite quickly if they have the will to do so.

    Could this be another proxy conflict along with other recent events where many more nations getting into the fray that history records as a 'world war'?

    I shudder to think! Hope I am just overthinking the implications.
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    Post  NANUXII on Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:35 pm

    America is the worlds largest hypocrite.

    North Korea has had nuclear capability for decades and has never used it. So Has Russia , China , India , UK , France , Pakistan , Israel ... there are more .. Was France invaded when they were nuclear testing ? nooo , why is that ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests_of_France

    heres a list , and this is Wiki so you know its been made to look better to favor France ...


    Either every country gets nukes or none do , including you America

    what a bunch of sanctimonious dullards ....





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    Post  Carol on Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:51 pm


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqZje0m2DvM
    Join Greg Hunter of USAWatchdog.com as he talks about the week's top stories in the Weekly News Wrap-Up.
    Begins talking about North Korea.


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    Post  JoeEcho on Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:50 pm

    NANUXII wrote:America is the worlds largest hypocrite.

    North Korea has had nuclear capability for decades and has never used it. So Has Russia , China , India , UK , France , Pakistan , Israel ... there are more ..  Was France invaded when they were nuclear testing ?  nooo , why is that ?  

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests_of_France

    heres a list , and this is Wiki so you know its been made to look better to favor France ...


    Either every country gets nukes or none do , including you America

    what a bunch of sanctimonious dullards ....


    All countries that have politicians in them are hypocritical so, for me, the it a moot point. What I am concerned about is the war drums beating with more frequency like they were in the lead up to the Iraq war. Somebody else can argue about the politics of it.



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    Post  Carol on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:06 am

    I'm not worried about N. Korea nuking the US. In addition they have been lobbing missiles on in Japan's direction for years. Remember both China and Russia are it's boarders and they are not going to let something nasty happen. What is going on is that the US is putting pressure on China with trade. Kim gets furious at the US for all of their trade embargoes and just acts out more and more. But he's always done that. The thing to pay attention is how China is going to use their yuan, back by gold, not the Euro or the US petro dollar. Basically many other countries are going to trade with the gold-backed yuan and the petro dollar will continue to tank. Now an event that would bring the US to war as a cover-up for the unfurling financial disaster worse then what happen in 2008 is the pattern of the past, but will that happen this time? The Fed (a private bank) will do what it can to protect itself and distract folks from what's really going on. The cabal is dependent on the petro $, yet this system is coming to an end and they are in a panic.. they will do whatever they can to maintain control over the $. More likely more problems in the mideast/Europe.


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    Post  JoeEcho on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:45 am

    Carol wrote:I'm not worried about N. Korea nuking the US. In addition they have been lobbing missiles on in Japan's direction for years. Remember both China and Russia are it's boarders and they are not going to let something nasty happen. What is going on is that the US is putting pressure on China with trade. Kim gets furious at the US for all of their trade embargoes and just acts out more and more. But he's always done that. The thing to pay attention is how China is going to use their yuan, back by gold, not the Euro or the US petro dollar. Basically many other countries are going to trade with the gold-backed yuan and the petro dollar will continue to tank. Now an event that would bring the US to war as a cover-up for the unfurling financial disaster worse then what happen in 2008 is the pattern of the past, but will that happen this time? The Fed (a private bank) will do what it can to protect itself and distract folks from what's really going on. The cabal is dependent on the petro $, yet this system is coming to an end and they are in a panic.. they will do whatever they can to maintain control over the $. More likely more problems in the mideast/Europe.

    So, in a way, are you sating the stuff going on in North Korea is more of a distraction for the common folk that does understand the action of the deep state? If so, that seems a probability for little I have read on the subject but what a distraction. The stuff you mentioned, Carol, makes me think of a 'world within a world' that only people that have study it a fair amount would figure out the real reasons for the chess moves done in a world of chess piece.

    If I am way off I am certainly willing to be corrected or amended on this particular subject. I am sure there are smart observers out there then I about this. That is what is cool about forums, somebody can share what there thinking about a subject and someone else can say for instance... "but wait, have you ever considered this......"

    Hasn't it been said that when something doesn't makes sense one should "follow the money"? That even supposed religious war were really about power/ money throughout history and not because of defending some ideology or 'god'.

    Interesting..... Interesting.....
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    Post  JoeEcho on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:46 am

    Carol wrote:I'm not worried about N. Korea nuking the US. In addition they have been lobbing missiles on in Japan's direction for years. Remember both China and Russia are it's boarders and they are not going to let something nasty happen. What is going on is that the US is putting pressure on China with trade. Kim gets furious at the US for all of their trade embargoes and just acts out more and more. But he's always done that. The thing to pay attention is how China is going to use their yuan, back by gold, not the Euro or the US petro dollar. Basically many other countries are going to trade with the gold-backed yuan and the petro dollar will continue to tank. Now an event that would bring the US to war as a cover-up for the unfurling financial disaster worse then what happen in 2008 is the pattern of the past, but will that happen this time? The Fed (a private bank) will do what it can to protect itself and distract folks from what's really going on. The cabal is dependent on the petro $, yet this system is coming to an end and they are in a panic.. they will do whatever they can to maintain control over the $. More likely more problems in the mideast/Europe.

    So, in a way, are you saying the stuff going on in North Korea is more of a distraction for the common folk that does understand the action of the deep state? If so, that seems a probability for little I have read on the subject but what a distraction. The stuff you mentioned, Carol, makes me think of a 'world within a world' that only people that have study it a fair amount would figure out the real reasons for the chess moves done in a world of chess piece.

    If I am way off I am certainly willing to be corrected or amended on this particular subject. I am sure there are smart observers out there then I about this. That is what is cool about forums, somebody can share what there thinking about a subject and someone else can say for instance... "but wait, have you ever considered this......"  

    Hasn't it been said that when something doesn't makes sense one should "follow the money"? That even supposed religious war were really about power/ money throughout history and not because of defending some ideology or 'god'.

    Interesting..... Interesting.....
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    Post  Carol on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:49 am

    Follow the money and whose controlling it is a good rule of thumb Joe. Sometimes I wonder what the world would look like if greed was non-existent.


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    Post  JoeEcho on Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:03 am

    Carol wrote:Follow the money and whose controlling it is a good rule of thumb Joe. Sometimes I wonder what the world would look like if greed was non-existent.

    I hear you! I agree, not just greed of money and power but also about knowledge. The control of/ greed of knowledge is the first step in the subjugation of the masses.
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    Post  Swanny on Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:50 am

    It's always about money and control. These creatures don't care about people
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    Post  Carol on Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:54 am

    Claims North Korea's armed forces are near goal of 'equilibrium' with United States
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/16/kim-says-north-korea-is-nearing-goal-military-equilibrium-with-us.html

    Kim’s comments came a day after the country fired its latest missile over Japan, a test the United Nations Security Council strongly condemned as “highly provocative.”

    The dictator said the country’s final goal "is to establish the equilibrium of real force with the U.S. and make the U.S. rulers dare not talk about military option for the DPRK," referring to North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, according to the state-run Korean Central News Agency.

    Kim indicated that more missile tests would be forthcoming, saying that all future drills should be "meaningful and practical ones for increasing the combat power of the nuclear force" to establish an order in the deployment of nuclear warheads for "actual war."

    A South Korean army soldier watches a TV screen showing a local news program reporting about North Korea's missile launch, at the Seoul Railway Station in Seoul, South Korea, Saturday, Sept. 16, 2017. North Korea leader Kim said his country is nearing its goal of "equilibrium" in military force with the United States, as the United Nations Security Council strongly condemned the North's "highly provocative" ballistic missile launch over Japan on Friday.

    The BBC quoted Kim as scoffing at the new U.N. sanctions.

    "We should clearly show the big power chauvinists how our state attain the goal of completing its nuclear force despite their limitless sanctions and blockade," the BBC quoted Kim as saying to the KCNA.

    Kim supervised Friday’s launch of a Hwasong-12 ballistic missile.

    It traveled 2,300 miles as it passed over the Japanese island of Hokkaido before landing in the northern Pacific Ocean. It was the country's longest-ever test flight of a ballistic missile.

    Under Kim Jong Un's watch, North Korea has maintained a torrid pace in weapons tests, including its most powerful nuclear test to date on Sept. 3 and two July flight tests of intercontinental ballistic missiles that could strike deep into the U.S. mainland when perfected.

    The KCNA said Kim expressed great satisfaction over the launch, which he said verified the "combat efficiency and reliability" of the missile and the success of efforts to increase its power.

    People watch a launching of a Hwasong-12 strategic ballistic rocket aired on a public TV screen at the Pyongyang Train Station in Pyongyang, North Korea, Saturday, Sept. 16, 2017. North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said his country is nearing its goal of "equilibrium" in military force with the United States, as the United Nations Security Council strongly condemned the North's "highly provocative" ballistic missile launch over Japan on Friday.

    While the English version of the report was less straightforward, the Korean version quoted Kim as declaring the missile as operationally ready. He vowed to complete his nuclear weapons program in the face of strengthening international sanctions, the agency said.

    The U.N. Security Council accused North Korea of undermining regional peace and security by launching its latest missile over Japan and said its nuclear and missile tests "have caused grave security concerns around the world" and threaten all 193 U.N. member states.

    Kim also said the country, despite "limitless" international sanctions, has nearly completed the building of its nuclear weapons force and called for "all-state efforts" to reach the goal and obtain a "capacity for nuclear counterattack the U.S. cannot cope with."

    "As recognized by the whole world, we have made all these achievements despite the U.N. sanctions that have lasted for decades," the agency quoted Kim as saying.

    Prior to the launches over Japan, North Korea had threatened to fire a salvo of Hwasong-12s toward Guam, the U.S. Pacific island territory and military hub the North has called an "advanced base of invasion."

    This undated photo distributed on Saturday, Sept. 16, 2017, by the North Korean government shows what was said to be the test launch of an intermediate range Hwasong-12 in North Korea. Independent journalists were not given access to cover the event depicted in this image distributed by the North Korean government. The content of this image is as provided and cannot be independently verified. (Korean Central News Agency/Korea News Service via AP)Expand / Collapse

    Korean Central News Agency/Korea News Service via AP (North Korean government shows on Saturday what was said to be the test launch of an intermediate range Hwasong-12 in North Korea)

    The Security Council stressed in a statement after a closed-door emergency meeting that all countries must "fully, comprehensively and immediately" implement all U.N. sanctions.

    Japan's U.N. Ambassador Koro Bessho called the missile launch an "outrageous act" that is not only a threat to Japan's security but a threat to the whole world.



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    Post  NANUXII on Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:58 pm

    JoeEcho wrote:
    NANUXII wrote:America is the worlds largest hypocrite.

    North Korea has had nuclear capability for decades and has never used it. So Has Russia , China , India , UK , France , Pakistan , Israel ... there are more ..  Was France invaded when they were nuclear testing ?  nooo , why is that ?  

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests_of_France

    heres a list , and this is Wiki so you know its been made to look better to favor France ...


    Either every country gets nukes or none do , including you America

    what a bunch of sanctimonious dullards ....


    All countries that have politicians in them are hypocritical so, for me, the it a moot point. What I am concerned about is the war drums beating with more frequency like they were in the lead up to the Iraq war. Somebody else can argue about the politics of it.





    what did i tell you , shell just waltz back in like nothing happened ...

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