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    Post  burgundia on Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:33 pm

    In this link there is a video. Ukrainian memebers of a special unit are slitting the throat of a chief of a police department in one of the towns in eastern Ukraine. While doing it they are shouting"Hail to Ukraine".

    http://antifashist.com/latest-news/24155-fashistybanderovcy-na-glazah-zheny-ubivajut-byvshego-nachalnika-milicii-d
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    Transcript: A REFUGEE FROM SLAVYANSK TELLS ABOUT THE PUBLIC EXECUTION OF A SELF DEFENSE ACTIVIST'S KID AND WIFE
    One week has passed since the Kiev troops entered Slavyansk left by the Self Defense.
    The story, which was told by a woman from the refugee camp in the Rostov region of the Russian federation, dated the same time.
    She told about a public execution. Her name is Galina, she's a mother of four.
    Galina was born in Western Ukraine, and her relatives, who live there, are very unhappy that her husband joined the People's Self Defense.
    The story Galina told us, left an uneasy feeling.
    The mind refuses to realize such a thing is possible in our days in the center of Europe. The heart cannot believe such a thing exists.

    Galina Pyshnyak: "City center. Lenin Square. Our City council - it is the only place where you can gather all the people.

    They gathered women in the square, because there are no men in the city now. Women, girls, old people. And this is called exemplary punishment.

    They took a 3-year-old-kid -- a little boy, he was wearing only a panties and a T-shirt, and nailed him on the bulletin board, they crucified him as Jesus.

    Two men held him, while another man nailed him.

    And it all were happening in front of his mother. They held her down. And she watched her baby bleed.

    Cries. Squeals.

    They also made some cuts on his body to make him suffer more.

    It was just unbearable. People fainted.

    After an hour and half of torture he died.

    Then they took his mother, who had fainted, tied her to a tank and drove three circles around the square. A circle in the square is one kilometer long".

    Yulia Chumakova: "You, especially after this interview, are in great danger. Am I right?"

    Galina Pyshnyak: "I became a traitor, because I was born in the Transcarpathian region. Even my mom said: I'll shoot you, when you come here. And the National Guard will shoot. I was sentenced to a double shot. I'm not afraid for myself. I feel sorry for my kids. If I wouldn't have kids, I would take a weapon and join the Self Defense.

    'Cause it's not the Ukrainian Army, they are not liberators, they are bitches. When they came to the city, there were no Self Defense activists. They shot and looted in the city.

    Old people told us, that even the fascists didn't behave like that. That group "Galician" of the SS they were locals, and they were torturing the locals. They raped women and killed children. And now their grandchildren have revived it all back."

    Yulia Chumakova: "Are you not afraid to talk about it?"

    Galina Pyshnyak: "Let the whole world know how they torture people, because nobody believes. Nobody knows about that. And those phosphorous bombs. Children found variously shaped pieces of mines.
    Dead bodies lay everywhere. There was no free space where to put them. Morgue did not work. A stench of decomposing bodies.
    You can't believe it, because you haven't been there, you haven't seen it.
    For you it's just a terrible thing, savagery.

    There was a shooting tonight, but my kid didn't even wake up, because he got used to hear that sound. A 7-year-old kid!
    He asks: "Mom, is that bombings?". I say, "Yes, my son." And he falls asleep again."

    Yulia Chumakova: "You so boldly opened your face and said your name. Are you not afraid?"

    Galina Pyshnyak: "Because I'm like a rock after these three months."

    Yulia Chumakova: "What do you hope for? You know it will end someday."

    Galina Pyshnyak: "Give us freedom. There are no Russian troops. The fighters are ordinary hardworking miners. Workers rebelled because their patience was over.

    They have had enough of human blood.

    We are all of one blood. Don't divide us.

    Yes, there are some bad people among us. I can't say we are all one, but we are all humans.

    Don't declare war, try to negotiate. Kind word always wins."

    Yulia Chumakova: "Thank you very much that you've agreed to tell us these things. And good luck."
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    Post  burgundia on Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:03 pm

    http://irenecaesar.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/chabad-coup-detat-in-ukraine-khazars-play-double-game-ans-shoot-both-sides/

    1. MILLENIA-LONG FIGHT BETWEEN RUSSIA AND KHAZARIA ON THE TERRITORY CALLED “UKRAINE” BY JUDEO-COMMUNISTS IN 1922

    The Israeli Knesset denounced the anti-semitic Neo-Nazis in Urkaine who took power via the anti-constitutional armed coup d’Etat in Kiev. The ill-known Israeli activist Avigdor Eskin spoke against those Neo-nazis, and, at the same time, he became known recently for supporting white supremacists in the South African Republic who themselves became the victims of racial genocide. Avigdor Eskin is a vivid example of the double game that Chabad plays literally shooting both sides.

    Khazarian Kaganat, Ashkenazi last name “Cohen” in America is derived from the Khazarian word “Kagan”, which designated the military leader in Khazaria. In Russia, this name is spelled “Kagan”. This word is itself derived from the Ancient Russian-Aryan word “kohan” meaning “dear”

    Let us take a close look at these so-called Aryan white supemacist, ultra-radical Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. All the leaders of the so-called Ukrainian opposition are JEWS (i.e., Khazars / Turks pretending to be “god’s chosen Ethiopians” from the Tribe of Seth / Tribe of Judah) — Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Wladimir Klitschko, Yulia Tymoshenko, and including Oleh Tyahnybok and Dmytro Yarosh, the leaders of the ultra-radical Neo-Nazis. The major sponsor of the ultra-radical Neo-Nazi “Right Sector” and “Svoboda” in Ukraine is Ihor Kolomoykyi, the wealthiest citizen of Israel, the second wealthiest man of Ukraine, and the President of the Jewish European Congress.
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    Re: Ukraine Now

    Post  Jenetta on Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:40 pm

    Transcript: A REFUGEE FROM SLAVYANSK TELLS ABOUT THE PUBLIC EXECUTION OF A SELF DEFENSE ACTIVIST'S KID AND WIFE
    One week has passed since the Kiev troops entered Slavyansk left by the Self Defense.
    The story, which was told by a woman from the refugee camp in the Rostov region of the Russian federation, dated the same time.
    She told about a public execution. Her name is Galina, she's a mother of four.
    Galina was born in Western Ukraine, and her relatives, who live there, are very unhappy that her husband joined the People's Self Defense.
    The story Galina told us, left an uneasy feeling.
    The mind refuses to realize such a thing is possible in our days in the center of Europe. The heart cannot believe such a thing exists.

    Galina Pyshnyak: "City center. Lenin Square. Our City council - it is the only place where you can gather all the people.

    They gathered women in the square, because there are no men in the city now. Women, girls, old people. And this is called exemplary punishment.

    They took a 3-year-old-kid -- a little boy, he was wearing only a panties and a T-shirt, and nailed him on the bulletin board, they crucified him as Jesus.

    Two men held him, while another man nailed him.

    And it all were happening in front of his mother. They held her down. And she watched her baby bleed.

    Cries. Squeals.

    They also made some cuts on his body to make him suffer more.

    It was just unbearable. People fainted.

    After an hour and half of torture he died.

    Then they took his mother, who had fainted, tied her to a tank and drove three circles around the square. A circle in the square is one kilometer long".

    Yulia Chumakova: "You, especially after this interview, are in great danger. Am I right?"

    Galina Pyshnyak: "I became a traitor, because I was born in the Transcarpathian region. Even my mom said: I'll shoot you, when you come here. And the National Guard will shoot. I was sentenced to a double shot. I'm not afraid for myself. I feel sorry for my kids. If I wouldn't have kids, I would take a weapon and join the Self Defense.

    'Cause it's not the Ukrainian Army, they are not liberators, they are bitches. When they came to the city, there were no Self Defense activists. They shot and looted in the city.

    Old people told us, that even the fascists didn't behave like that. That group "Galician" of the SS they were locals, and they were torturing the locals. They raped women and killed children. And now their grandchildren have revived it all back."

    Yulia Chumakova: "Are you not afraid to talk about it?"

    Galina Pyshnyak: "Let the whole world know how they torture people, because nobody believes. Nobody knows about that. And those phosphorous bombs. Children found variously shaped pieces of mines.
    Dead bodies lay everywhere. There was no free space where to put them. Morgue did not work. A stench of decomposing bodies.
    You can't believe it, because you haven't been there, you haven't seen it.
    For you it's just a terrible thing, savagery.

    There was a shooting tonight, but my kid didn't even wake up, because he got used to hear that sound. A 7-year-old kid!
    He asks: "Mom, is that bombings?". I say, "Yes, my son." And he falls asleep again."

    Yulia Chumakova: "You so boldly opened your face and said your name. Are you not afraid?"

    Galina Pyshnyak: "Because I'm like a rock after these three months."

    Yulia Chumakova: "What do you hope for? You know it will end someday."

    Galina Pyshnyak: "Give us freedom. There are no Russian troops. The fighters are ordinary hardworking miners. Workers rebelled because their patience was over.

    They have had enough of human blood.

    We are all of one blood. Don't divide us.

    Yes, there are some bad people among us. I can't say we are all one, but we are all humans.

    Don't declare war, try to negotiate. Kind word always wins."

    Yulia Chumakova: "Thank you very much that you've agreed to tell us these things. And good luck."[/quote]


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    Cruelty is beyond comprehension Burgundia...another video spoke of this incident too regarding the youngster. Men who are no longer human. Who have become beasts. This information needs to be sent to the leaders of Western nations so they are aware of the sadistic brutes they are supporting in countries like Israel, Syria and the Ukraine.

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    Post  burgundia on Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:12 pm

    Perhaps women can stop this war...

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    Post  burgundia on Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:46 pm

    Last information from Donbass Militia about an air crash - they confirm that the airplane of Malaysian airlines was shot by Ukrainain military plane SU-25, then one or two persons were noticed with the parachutes. later Donbass militants shot down this Ukrainian SU-25, there is no any information yet about the Ukr pilot.
    8 from 12 black boxes were found already by the militants and sent to Donetsk.
    Some people are already recognized. There are
    4 French people
    90 Nederland persons
    23 Americans
    2-4 British
    lots of Malaysians...
    What a horror... For now Donbass Militia stops their work there because of the darkness. Tomorrow morning the work will be renewed.

    Everybody in the world is talking today about an air crush in Donetsk republic. So, look, I would like to clarify several moments.
    1) Remember in my diary from 8 of July I wrote that Ukrainian government officially closed the air space above Donetsk and Lugansk Republics? And next day they bombed Donetsk part (Petrovka). So, how could Kiev allow Malaysian airlines to fly there?
    2) Also in my diary from 15 of July I wrote that Donbass Militia (during attack the airport) exploded a communication control tower? This communication tower is one of the parts of the unitary air control system. That means: air flights can’t take place above Donetsk Republic as the necessary control infrastructure is destroyed, so air crafts CAN”T fly. I tell you even more. All the flights are corrected nowadays only by Kiev dispatcher office!
    3) Donbass Militia doesn’t have such professional equipment and well prepared soldiers to do such shelling.
    4) Kiev is the most interested in this accident – now they will ask NATO to enter into Donbass.
    So, but anyhow all Donbass people express their condolences… I know there were people from Malaysia, Nederland etc… Who is responsible for this horrible tragedy? No doubts, Ukrainian government.
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    Post  burgundia on Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:00 am

    MrCati made this video several days ago....

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    Post  burgundia on Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:26 am

    http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/spanish-air-controller-kiev-borispol-airport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/

    Spanish Air Controller @ Kiev Borispol Airport: Ukraine Military Shot Down Boeing #MH17

    Eyewitness Accounts July 18, 2014 Comments: 9
    Translated from Spanish by Luis Lopez
    Source: Tweets by Spanish Air Controller - @spainbuca

    FLASH UPDATE – @spainbuca TWITTER ACCOUNT REMOVED – EVIDENCE IS BEING ERASED

    #BREAKING – @spainbuca ACCOUNT DELETED. @spainbuca was the Air Traffic Controller whose tweets are here: http://t.co/I53Vc2pG6E

    — Gleb Bazov (@gbazov) July 18, 2014

    CHRONOLOGY OF @spainbuca’s TWITTER FEED

    10:21 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Autoridades de kiev, intentan hacer que pueda parecer un ataque de los pro-rusos

    “Kiev Authorities, trying to make looks like an attack by pro-Russian”

    10:24 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Ojo! Que puede ser un derribo B777 Malaysia Airlines en ukraine, 280 pasajeros

    “warning! It can be a downing, Malaysia Airlines B777 in ukraine, 280 passengers”

    10:25 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Cuidado! Kiev tiene lo que buscaba

    “Warning! Kiev have what they wanted”

    10:25 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Vuelven a tomar la torre de control en Kiev

    “[Miitary] has taken control of ATC in Kiev”

    10:27 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El avión B777 de Malaysia Airlines desapareció del radar, no hubo comunicación de ninguna anomalia, confirmado

    “The Malaysia Airlines B777 plane disappeared from the radar, there was no communication of any anomaly, confirmed”

    10:30 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Avión derribado, derribados, derribado no accidente

    “Plane shot down, shot down, shot down, no accident”

    (more at the link above)
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    Post  Jenetta on Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:35 am

    Militias do not have Ukrainian Buk missile system — Ukraine general prosecutor

    July 18th/2014

    (Personal Note): Straight goods from the "horses' mouth."

    Ukrainian Interior Minister Anton Gerashchenko said on July 17 that the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 (MH17) airliner had been downed by the Buk missile system

    KIEV, July 18. /ITAR-TASS/. Militias in the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk people’s republics do not have Ukrainian air defense missile systems Buk and S-300 at their disposal, Ukrainian Prosecutor-General Vitaly Yarema told Ukrainian Pravda newspaper on Friday.

    “After the passenger airliner was downed, the military reported to the president that terrorists do not have our air defense missile systems Buk and S-300,” the general prosecutor said. “These weapons were not seized,” he added.

    Ukrainian Interior Minister Anton Gerashchenko said on July 17 that the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 airliner had been downed by an air defense missile system Buk.

    The Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 airliner on the way from the Dutch city of Amsterdam to the Malaysian capital of Kuala Lumpur crashed in Ukraine on Thursday. All 298 people abroad the airliner died in the crash.

    http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741271

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    Post  enemyofNWO on Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:41 am

    Some odd data . On the 17 /07/2014 a boing 777 called MH-17 was shot down .
    It was a Malaysian airliner similar to MH-370 that disappeared suddenly after taken off from Kulla Lampur .

    Please note all the 7 numbers in this saga . The disappearance of the Mh-370 was
    a False flag , will this one be a False Flag too ?
    Will see what happens next , if the crims from NATO or the USA takes this opportunity to send troops to Ukraine , it is then certain that it was a programmed incident by the usual suspects . The result will be a World War .
    The war against the separatists in Donetsk and Lugansk is not going well for the UKIES . They have been defeated roundly in an area called the CAULDRON .
    Read all about on .http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.it and

    http://anna-news.info

    Consider also why is Malaysia so Hated ?
    It hosted an international tribunal that condemned as war criminals various international politicians including some Israeli war criminals .


    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.it

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    Post  Jenetta on Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:50 am

    Kiev deployed powerful anti-aircraft missile systems to E. Ukraine ahead of the Malaysian plane crash

    July 18, 2014

    The Ukrainian military has several batteries of Buk surface-to-air missile systems with at least 27 launchers, capable of bringing down high-flying jets, in the Donetsk region where the Malaysian passenger plane crashed, Russian Defense Ministry said.

    READ RT'S LIVE UPDATES ON MALAYSIAN PLANE CRASH

    “According to the Russian Defense Ministry information, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine located in the crash-site are equipped with anti-aircraft missile systems of "Buk-M1” ... These complexes in their tactical and technical characteristics are capable of detecting air targets at ranges of up to 160 kilometers and hit them at full altitude range at a distance of over 30 kilometers,” the ministry’s statement reads as cited by Ria.

    Earlier, Itar-Tass and Interfax news agencies were citing a source familiar with the issue, who said that another battery of Buk systems is currently being prepared for shipment to Donetsk region from the Ukrainian city of Kharkov.

    The Donetsk region remains the scene of heavy fighting between government troops and the forces of the opposition, which refused to recognize the regime change in Kiev and demand federalization.

    A Malaysian Airlines aircraft en route from Amsterdam to Malaysia crashed in Eastern Ukraine – not far from the Russian border – on Thursday.
    There were reportedly 283 people and 15 crew members on board the Boeing-777 plane, who reportedly all died in the crash.

    There were unconfirmed reports the Malaysian plane was travelling at an altitude of over 10,000 meters when it was allegedly hit by a missile.

    There’s no way that the self-defense forces in Donetsk Region are in possession of such complex weaponry, he stressed. Only S-300 and Buk surface-to-air missile systems are capable of hitting targets at such altitude, the source said.

    Buk is a family of self-propelled, medium-range surface-to-air missile systems developed by the former USSR and Russia to engage targets at an engagement altitude of 11,000-25,000 meters depending on the model.

    Chances are high that the Malaysian plane was really downed by the Ukrainian anti-aircraft defense, Yury Karash, pilot and aviation expert, told RT.

    “A Boeing-777 is an extremely reliable piece of machinery. Modern planes don’t just crash with no reason,” he said. “Let us recall how a Ukrainian missile downed Russian TU-154 aircraft ten years ago. I can’t completely exclude the possibility the Boeing-777 was also hit by a missile.”

    “I don’t know who could’ve shot it down. But I can allege that it was most likely the Ukrainian armed forces: simply because its military – anti-aircraft defense, in particular – are, unfortunately, unqualified. As judging by the overall state of the Ukrainian armed forces, insufficient attention has been paid to their training,” Karash added.

    Reports in the Western media hurried to blame the self-defense forces of the People’s Republic of Donetsk for bringing the plane down.

    The claims were denied by the representatives of the Donetsk People’s Republic, saying that it’s the Ukrainian military, which destroyed the aircraft.

    “We simply don’t have such air defense systems. Our man-portable air defense systems have a firing range 3,000 - 4,000 meters. The Boeing was flying at a much higher altitude,” Sergey Kavtaradze, special representative for the prime minister of the Donetsk People’s Republic, explained.

    Kavtaradze also expressed condolences to the relatives of all of those who lost their lives in the tragedy.

    IHS Jane’s Defense analyst, Nick de Larrinaga, also shared the belief that the self-defense forces lack the capability to bring the Malaysian plane down.

    “At normal cruising altitude a civilian passenger aircraft would be out of the range of the sort of manned portable air (defense) systems that we have seen proliferate in rebel hands in east Ukraine,” he said in a statement.

    But the aircraft would be within range of Buk or other medium-range surface-to-air missile systems, he stressed.

    “Both Russia and Ukraine have such SAM systems in their inventories,” the expert added.

    It seems unlikely that the self-defense forces could’ve used Buk surface-to-air missile systems to down the Malaysian plane, retired Brig. Gen. Kevin Ryan, the director of the Defense and Intelligence Project at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, said.

    “It takes a lot of training and a lot of coordination to fire one of these and hit something,” he told CNN. “This is not the kind of weapon a couple of guys are going to pull out of a garage and fire.”

    According to Ryan, if the plane was really taken down then it was done by a professional military force.

    http://rt.com/news/173636-buk-malaysian-plane-crash/

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    Post  mudra on Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:41 pm

    Ukraine - it's the gas, gas, gas

    Mike Whitney

    10th July 2014


    in Ukraine, as in Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, and Syria, US policy is all about dominating the world's fossil fuel supplies, writes Mike Whitney - in this case, the gas pipelines from Russia to Europe. But the 'great aggressor', Vladimir Putin, is refusing to play his part. So what next?

    The intention is to dissolve the nation-state in order to remove any obstacle to resource extraction, which is why failed states are popping up wherever the US sticks its big nose.

    What does a pipeline in Afghanistan have to do with the crisis in Ukraine?

    Everything. It reveals the commercial interests that drive US policy.

    Just as the War in Afghanistan was largely fought to facilitate the transfer of natural gas from Turkmenistan to the Arabian Sea, so too, Washington engineered the bloody coup in Kiev to cut off energy supplies from Russia to Europe to facilitate the US pivot to Asia.

    This is why policymakers in Washington are reasonably satisfied with the outcome of the war in Afghanistan despite the fact that none of the stated goals were achieved.

    Afghanistan - a shining success!

    Afghanistan is not a functioning democracy with a strong central government, drug trafficking has not been eradicated, women haven't been liberated, and the infrastructure and school systems are worse than they were before the war.

    By every objective standard the war was a failure. But, of course, the stated goals were just public relations blather anyway. They don't mean anything.

    What matters is gas, namely the vast untapped reserves in Turkmenistan that could be extracted by privately-owned US corporations who would use their authority to control the growth of US competitors or would-be rivals like China.

    That's what the war was all about. The gas is going to be transported via a pipeline from Turkmenistan, across Afghanistan, Pakistan and India to the Arabian sea, eschewing Russian and Iranian territory.

    The completion of the so called TAPI pipeline will undermine the development of an Iranian pipeline, thus sabotaging the efforts of a US adversary.

    The imperial objective: global energy dominance
    "While the human politics of the crisis in Ukraine garner all the headlines, it is the gas politics that in many ways lies at the heart of the conflict."
    Eric Draitser, Waging war against Russia, one pipeline at a time, RT.

    The TAPI pipeline illustrates how Washington is aggressively securing the assets it needs to maintain its dominance for the foreseeable future. Now, check out 'TAPI pipeline: Officials to finalise contract award in Ashgabat next week' from The Express Tribune, July 5:

    "Officials of Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and Turkmenistan are set to meet in Ashgabat next week to push ahead with a planned transnational gas pipeline connecting the four countries and reach a settlement on the award of the multi-billion-dollar project to US companies.

    "The US is pushing the four countries to grant the lucrative pipeline contract to its energy giants. Two US firms - Chevron and ExxonMobil - are in the race to become consortium leaders, win the project and finance the laying of the pipeline," a senior government official said while talking to The Express Tribune.

    "Washington has been lobbying for the gas supply project, called Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India (Tapi) pipeline, terming it an ideal scheme to tackle energy shortages in Pakistan. On the other side, it pressed Islamabad to shelve the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline because of a nuclear standoff with Tehran ...

    According to officials, Petroleum and Natural Resources Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi will lead a delegation at the meeting of the TAPI pipeline steering committee on July 8 in Ashgabat ...

    "At present, bid documents are being prepared in consultation with the Asian Development Bank, which is playing the role of transaction adviser. The documents will be given to the two companies only for taking part in the tender.

    "Chevron is lobbying in India, Pakistan and Afghanistan to clinch a deal, backed by the US State Department. However, other companies could also become part of the consortium that will be led either by Chevron or ExxonMobil."

    So the pipeline plan is finally moving forward and, as the article notes, "The documents will be given to the two companies only for taking part in the tender."

    Nice, eh? So the State Department applies a little muscle and 'Voila', Chevron and Exxon clinch the deal. How's that for a free market?

    US military bases are neatly set along the pipeline

    And who do you think is going to protect that 1,000 mile stretch of pipeline through hostile Taliban-controlled Afghanistan?

    Why US troops, of course, which is why US military bases are conveniently located up an down the pipeline route. Coincidence?

    Not on your life. Operation 'Enduring Freedom' is a bigger hoax than the threadbare war on terror.

    So let's not kid ourselves. The war had nothing to do with liberating women or bringing democracy to the unwashed masses. It was all about power politics and geostrategic maneuvering; stealing resources, trouncing potential rivals, and beefing up profits for the voracious oil giants.

    Who doesn't know that already? Here's more background from an article in the Wall Street Journal, 'The Pipeline That Could Keep the Peace in Afghanistan':

    "Earlier this month, President Obama sent a letter to (Turkmenistan) President Berdimuhamedow emphasizing a common interest in helping develop Afghanistan and expressing Mr. Obama's support for TAPI and his desire for a major U.S. firm to construct it ...

    "Progress on TAPI will also jump-start many of the other trans-Afghan transport projects-including roads and railroads-that are at the heart of America's "New Silk Road Strategy" for the Afghan economy.

    "The White House should understand that if TAPI isn't built, neither U.S. nor U.N. sanctions will prevent Pakistan from building a pipeline from Iran."

    Forget 'nation building' and other baloney

    Can you see what's going on? Afghanistan, which is central to Washington's pivot strategy, is going to be used for military bases, resource extraction and transportation. That's it.

    There's not going to be any reconstruction or nation building. The US doesn't do that anymore. This is the stripped-down, no-frills, 21st century imperialism. "No nation for you, buddy. Just give us your gas and off we'll go." That's how the system works now.

    It's a lot like Iraq - the biggest hellhole on earth - where "oil production has surged to its highest level in over 30 years". (according to the Wall Street Journal) And who's raking in the profits on that oil windfall?

    Why the oil giants, of course. (ExxonMobil, BP and Shell) Maybe that's why you never read about what a terrible mistake the war was. Because for the people who count, it really wasn't a mistake at all. In fact, it all worked out pretty well.

    Of course, the US will support the appearance of democracy in Kabul, but the government won't have any real power beyond the capital. It never did anyway. Locals jokingly called Karzai the "mayor of Kabul".

    Resource extraction rules

    As for the rest of the country, it will be ruled by warlords as it has been since the invasion in 2001. Remember the Northern Alliance? Hate to break the news, but they're all bloodthirsty, misogynist warlords who were reinstated by Rumsfeld and Co.

    This is the new anarchic 'Mad Max' template Washington is applying wherever it intervenes. The intention is to dissolve the nation-state in order to remove any obstacle to resource extraction, which is why failed states are popping up wherever the US sticks its big nose.

    It's all by design. Chaos is the objective. Simply put: It's easier to steal whatever one wants when there's no center of power to resist.

    This is why political leaders in Europe are so worried, because they don't like the idea of sharing a border with Somalia, which is exactly what Ukraine is going to look like when the US is done with it.

    Ukraine - where the 'great aggressor' is not attacking

    In Ukraine, the US is using a divide and conquer strategy to pit the EU against trading partner Moscow. The State Department and CIA helped to topple Ukraine's elected President Viktor Yanukovych and install a US stooge in Kiev who was ordered to cut off the flow of Russian gas to the EU and lure Putin into a protracted guerilla war in Ukraine.

    The bigwigs in Washington figured that, with some provocation, Putin would react the same way he did when Georgia invaded South Ossetia in 2006.
    "The unipolar world model has failed. People everywhere have shown their desire to choose their own destiny, preserve their own cultural identity, and oppose the West's attempts at military, financial, political and ideological domination."
    Vladimir Putin.

    But, so far, Putin has resisted the temptation to get involved which is why new puppet president Petro Poroshenko has gone all 'Jackie Chan' and stepped up the provocations by pummeling east Ukraine mercilessly. It's just a way of goading Putin into sending in the tanks.

    But here's the odd part: Washington doesn't have a back-up plan. It's obvious by the way Poroshenko keeps doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. That demonstrates that there's no Plan B.

    Either Poroshenko lures Putin across the border and into the conflict, or the neocon plan falls apart, which it will if they can't demonize Putin as a "dangerous aggressor" who can't be trusted as a business partner.

    So all Putin has to do is sit-tight and he wins, mainly because the EU needs Moscow's gas. If energy supplies are terminated or drastically reduced, prices will rise, the EU will slide back into recession, and Washington will take the blame.

    So Washington has a very small window to draw Putin into the fray, which is why we should expect another false flag incident on a much larger scale than the fire in Odessa. Washington is going to have to do something really big and make it look like it was Moscow's doing.

    read on: http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2472120/ukraine_its_the_gas_gas_gas.html

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    Post  enemyofNWO on Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:32 am

    It seems that things are not what they appear .
    Note the hypocrisy to the US government in this case and the MH-370 case .  No calls for an  investigation on what and who did the shooting down  and the disapperance of 269 people on board of the MH-370 . O bammer was mute about this , because a serious investigation would have probably nailed the CIA . But because there is some possibility of scoring points defaming Russia, now he calls for a full investigation . We have seen that in a video a Novorossian commander talks about the smell of decomposition of the victims bodies .
    this might indicate that the victims could have been killed after boarding the plane . We have to remember this . How much a therapy that cure AIDS or a CHIP that helps producing invisibility are Worth ? There are criminals at large  who would KILL innocent people for the chance of having a monopoly on production and distribution of a Pill that cures AIDS or a Chip essential in invisibility devices .

    Up To 100 Passengers on Board Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 Were Top Experts In HIV/AIDS

    "As many as 100 passengers on board Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 were bound for the 20th International AIDS Conference in Melbourne, it emerged today. The disaster, which left 298 people dead, claimed the lives of some of the world's leading experts in the battle against HIV and devastated their families, friends and colleagues. According to theSydney Morning Herald, delegates arriving in Australia for the AIDS conference were told that 108 of their colleagues had perished.
    
Joep Lange, a prominent HIV researcher and former president of the International AIDS Society. 

He was one of the victims of 154 Dutch passengers on the jet apparently shot down over eastern Ukraine early on Friday while on its way to Kuala Lumpur, where he was scheduled to change planes.
    A professor of medicine and head of the department of global health at the University of Amsterdam, Lange had been involved in HIV treatment and research since 1983, just as the virus was emerging as a global health threat.

He was one of the key researchers behind several pivotal antiretroviral therapy trials, including projects involving the prevention of mother-to-child transmission of the virus, according to the Amsterdam Institute of Global Health and Development.

Lange was on his way to AIDS 2014, a global conference that will take place in Melbourne, Australia from July 20 to 25, at the time of death."

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    Post  burgundia on Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:55 pm

    If you did not see the report about rotten bodies on the shoot down plane, scroll down to July 18

    July 21 2014
    Russian satellites and American satellites recorded the truth

    America is being forced to backtrack on accusations that Russia downed flight MH17 after Russia produced proof that (as this web site reported on day one,) Ukranian fighter jets were accompanying flight MH17. Now an AP reporter has also stepped forward, saying that all along, from day one, he was shown proof that American satellites also tracked the shoot down, and that America knew Ukraine downed the plane as well.
    On day one this web site clearly stated this shoot down was done in Ukraine BY UKRAINE when the real MH17 is never supposed to get within 200 KM of where this plane was shot down. This shoot down was done 200KM East of MH17´s established flight path because the outcome of the investigation could be controlled in that region and falsified to forever hide that beyond a reasonable doubt the plane was in fact flight 370. A summary of the evidence proving it including what happened to the MH17 "passengers" is below:

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    Post  Jenetta on Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:15 pm

    [quote="burgundia"]If you did not see the report about rotten bodies on the shoot down plane, scroll down to July 18


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    There are too many inconsistencies in this story of MH17 and it's shootdown by a missile.  First and foremost is that there is a video which is circulating showing a ground explosion not a missile explosion in air,

    Malaysian Plane Crash Video Shows Ground Explosion, Not Missile Explosion In Air!
    See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fytpEF6-EQ

    As Trancoso mentions in his posting:
    Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17: THERE IS YET NO PROOF OF AN AIR EXPLOSION
    All the video footage is showing the same thing...A huge black plume of smoke from the crash! How can that be if it was blown apart in the sky? Have you ever witnessed another plane hit with a missile at 30,000 feet? The debris doesn't just fall down to the exact same spot on earth either - from 30,000 feet!

    Yet again there is video footage of bodies spread over a large area near Shaktarsk in Ukraine
    which again is strange as Burgundia mentions in her post #121 on this thread that rebel separatists have asserted some of these bodies appeared to have been drained of blood and were decomposing severely.

    Apparently there has been a development in the "rotten bodies" report:

    Now it is being said that a Dutch doctor who was at the scene within a day has released testimony that the bodies on the plane were rotten and dead days before the crash, which would corroborate what the military commander said and that evidence is there that they were also tortured before the crash. However, the translation from Dutch is very poor and I am working on secondary confirmation.
    The Mexican press did a very detailed piece about the dead bodies, showing them being loaded on the train in body bags, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW BAD THEY SMELLED, with absolutely everyone at the scene gagging from the stench including robust military types and doctors. It was surreal, I have never seen anything like that regarding bodies from any disaster. There is no way that kind of rot could have set in, in such a short time unless the bodies were indeed dead long before the shoot down.

    It is extremely important to re-enforce reality with the fact that the bodies were rotten, because this proves beyond any doubt that THIS WAS NOT FLIGHT MH17, THERE IS NO POSSIBLE CONCEIVABLE WAY IT WAS NO MATTER WHAT STORIES ARE SPUN AND THEORIES ARE PRESENTED. I could care less what the MSM spins about this, the rotten bodies alone renders everything else irrelevant. There is no middle ground to be had with this.

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    Hey Jim, Hope you are well. I read your page several times a day and have turned so many people on to it and I want to thank you for all you are doing.

    Not sure if you have already seen this video from Vice News. Its pretty disturbing but I wanted to point out the parts where bodies hit the ground and there isn't a drop of blood around them. Especially the guy in the road. It just totally supports the fact that they were drained.

    https://news.vice.com/video/exclusive-footage-of-mh17-aftermath-russian-roulette-dispatch-60

    John wrote: Predictive programming for MH17 on "The Strain"

    Hollywood famous Guillermo del Toro directed & wrote the season premiere of "The Strain" which aired on July 13th on FX (Fox owned network) just 4 days before MH-17. In the episode a BOEING jetliner arrives @ JFK from Europe with everyone dead on board, drained of blood & already decomposing.

    This comment below really struck a chord with me:

    Tobia wrote:

    "Wondering what the deal is with the picture that the Dutch man supposedly took at Schipholi before departure, mentioning "This is how the plane looks like in case it disappears" (or something like that)? You can clearly see part of the serial number on the front landing gear hatch: it says RC, which should be part of the nr 9MMRC, a MH17 clone plane that according to Flightradar24 departed for Kuala Lumpur on the 11th, and since then no flight at all."

    What is being said here is that a swap of MH17 took place: MH370 which vanished off radar in May...
    See: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7197-hijacked-ibm-engineer-from-missing-malaysia-airline-dials-out-message-from-diego-garcia
    MH370 was repainted to look like MH17.

    See:  http://jimstonefreelance.com/

    Then there is this video&reading by http://psychicfocus.blogspot.ca/

    July 19, 2014

    I wanted to take some time and do a more detailed reading addressing some questions in the original post and making a little more fluid sense of the recent events and the actions regarding the MH17....

    Q. How is the MH370 related to this event? Was the Malaysian government / authorities knowledgeable of what was happening?
    A.  I see the MH370 being taken over by an Asian group that I have later put together (though physical characteristics of military and personnel around the plane after it was diverted and landed) to be a combination of Chinese and/or Malaysian government / military.  (There is some underground allied plan going on that I am still sorting out.  Malaysia wants to be in solid with China as China begins to emerge as the new superpower.  I sense some kind of a deal was made.??).

    When the MH370 was taken I kept seeing ET involvement, cloaking, very different and very advanced technology being used to "hide" the missing MH370 plane.  I then determined that ETs may have been involved,   but the bigger clue was the technology or intelligence stolen was in reality something that seemed advanced and more technologically advanced than anything ever seen or used before.  The ET inference (I saw over and over) was taking me down the path of the technology taken, which was the much bigger clue.  In my "mental dictionary" when I see ETs I think of higher level thinking, mental communication, telepathy, etc- and I feel the "universe" was trying to make me understand the magnitude of this technology (physical and human based knowledge) on board the MH370. (I much later understood that the people on board the MH370 formed a private group developing this very high-tech technology... truly it was some of the passengers that were the asset and not the plane itself; however, the plane ended up being part of the plan as well.).

    After the MH370 was taken , it was "hidden" and guarded on the Great Cocos Island where it was prepared for its next mission (the end goal being to get the technology back to the main country in disguise either on board or attached to the plane).  Time after time I saw the plane as guarded and people doing work... I would see wires pulled out, soldering being done etc... The plane was guarded, felt protected and the energy was stressful and intense.

    I saw many references to the islanders while focusing on this plane (I see they were somehow protective or concerned for these distraught MH370 passengers).  I saw many times a group of passengers with the islanders in the central part of the island where there village was... as if some of the passengers were able to escape and were being helped??? (still not sure but I definitely saw a group living with them).  I also got images of native trees, fruit, spiders, etc... I feel fairly confident they were located on Great Cocos (or within miles of there) during this "prep work."

    In a recent post I felt the energy surrounding the MH370 had changed, as if the plane was separate from the people (I think some - like a group of 5 or less did escape and hide with the islanders).  There was a big disconnect of energy.  As I focused on it I saw the MH370 passengers in holding.  They weren't being treated great, but they had the basics of what they needed (food, water and a cot to sleep on).  It looked as though they were in some kind of a warehouse in a desert?? The temperature is very hot and dry.  The building is huge and I keep seeing them looking up at the 20 foot ceilings with tiny windows surrounding the top perimeter of the building.  It feels detrimental to the passengers to go further with that, so I will stop there...

    Q. Why were the MH370 passengers kept alive?
    I get they still proved to be of value.  A small group of individuals aboard this plane had important information and had knowledge of (what I get) "earth changing" defense weaponry.  As China rises to a superpower, this defense is essential, and drastic measures would be taken to keep it safe.  China feels ruthless and obsessed with getting the upper hand in this defense weapon.

    Q. How did the swap of the "prepped" MH370 and "old" MH17 occur?
    A.  I see during a moment of down time with the MH17 Chinese military (possibly Malaysian, but I get a stronger energy from the Chinese government) flew the old MH17 to the Great Cocos Island and flew the MH370 (painted up like the MH17) back into circulation.  People boarding the MH17 were really on the MH370 in disguise and didn't know any different.

    Q. Was this a false flag or did it really happen? Did people lose their lives?
    A.  Yes, there was loss of life. People on board the (disguised MH370) MH17 were killed in the explosion.

    Q. What happened prior to the plane going down?  What was going on with the pilots?
    A.  I get the pilots were the normal pilots.  They were not military and were not suspecting of anything being unusual when they took off, and even began their flight.  Then I get something unusual happened during the flight, and either their instrumentation was off, not calibrated, or they realized something wasn't reading right (direction, altitude, etc).  The plane was directed into a war zone, which was then shot down.

    In the background I see someone else flying this plane like a remote control. I get the feedback the pilots were getting at the time was somehow false, but something different was occurring.  (For example they were told there were in one location based off the instrument panel, when reality they were somewhere else).  The objective was to get the MH370 (disguised as MH17) back into the country.

    Q. Who shot down the plane and why?
    A. I get that during the entire time the US was searching for the missing MH370.  The talk of it crashing was false and a distraction.  As soon as the US got word of the MH370 being missing a red flag went up because there were some powerful / important people on the flight.  Even though no intel came in beforehand regarding the plot of the MH370, the US soon put it together once the plane was missing.  Diego Garcia base was frantic trying to find this missing plane.  I get that the US military had an idea of where the plane was, but couldn't "see" (still putting this together) it to retrieve it.

    The US military (with the support of the Ukraine) finally gained some useful chatter once the "swap" of planes occurred.  The plane was being tracked, and once it was over the "war zone" it was confirmed that this technology was either on board or a part of the plane- possibly even being tested remotely but failed.  (I get a strong impression that they plane was flown into the warzone remotely and on purpose to test the effectiveness of the "new" technology and failed.) It was a tough decision, but the US and Ukraine couldn't risk the Chinese gaining this technology and or modifying / enhancing it to strengthen their position.

    Q. What are they going to do with the real (original) MH17?
    A.  I see two paths with this.  If this first mission went successfully they would use some scrap off the original MH17 and plant it in the ocean and call it MH370 wreckage.  It was a way to dispose of the real MH17, end the MH370 story and give the families of the MH370 some closure.

    Now that this mission failed, I see them trying to revisit this plan and try to figure out a way to use the MH17 to do what the modified MH370 could not do..  I get this plan is being created and evolving currently.

    Q. Where to do we go from here?  What's going to be said?
    A. First, I get that Russia will be made to be the scapegoat in all this.  It will enhance the current tensions with Russia and the Ukraine.  It will also help strengthen the Ukraine's position in the world with regard to allies and other country's support. Many things will be said that won't add up.  There will be twists and turns to the story that will not resonate as true, or even logical once they are pondered.

    The questions I am still trying to sort out and gain some clarity:
    Why did I get such intense images of ET interference?
    Why did I sense they were in a parallel time? Was all of this related to this superb technology that was about to be released?

    Original reading after first hearing about MH17: http://psychicfocus.blogspot.com/2014/07/malaysian-flight-mh17-plane-shot-down.html

    Link to MH370 reading and follow-up comments: http://psychicfocus.blogspot.com/2014/03/malaysia-airline-mh370.html


    I will tidy this up by saying that Jim Stone feels that Israel is ultimately behind the crash of MH17(MH370) because it provides the ultimate psyop and cover for the Gaza conflict by providing a distraction for the global population.  
    However with psychic focus' input we must remember the people who were on MH370 and especially those who worked with the Freescale semi conductor technology (defense weaponry)?  Who stands to benefit here?
    Israel or China?
    Regardless of what happened with these two Malaysian planes innocent people on both planes lost their lives and were used as pawns by nation states.  Leave it to you to guess which nation states.

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    July 22 2014
    BUSTED: PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF SHOOT DOWN PLANE WAS MH370

    Earlier today I messed up a report about the number of seats and pulled that report. NOW WE HAVE THE SMOKING GUN, thanks to another internet sleuth, who spent many hours comparing photos of the wreckage to photos of MH370 and MH17, and he found the SMOKING GUN.
    The mistake in the shoot down false flag was subtle, yet obvious, and is absolute proof it was flight 370.

    In all paint jobs, things do not always line up the same. And the position of the flag on MH370 puts the leading edge at the first window behind the door, and on MH17, that flag instead lines up with the second window. You have to look at the correct side of the plane to see it, because the opposite side lines up the same on both planes. But when the correct sides of the two aircraft are compared (this would be the same as the passenger side of an American car) you can clearly see that the flag is an entire window off where it is supposed to be if it really was MH17.
    There is no way out of this, this is irrevocable proof the shot down plane is flight 370. Now there is another spare jet out there for another false flag, 9M MRD.

    Below are the two smoking gun photos.

    It is important to note that MH370 was new, and therefore never repainted. This is the way the flag ALWAYS looked on Flight 370, and it forever pegs the shoot down plane as flight 370.

    A development in the rotten bodies report

    Now it is being said that a Dutch doctor who was at the scene within a day has released testimony that the bodies on the plane were rotten and dead days before the crash, which would corroborate what the military commander said and that evidence is there that they were also tortured before the crash. However, the translation from Dutch is very poor and I am working on secondary confirmation.
    The Mexican press did a very detailed piece about the dead bodies, showing them being loaded on the train in body bags, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW BAD THEY SMELLED, with absolutely everyone at the scene gagging from the stench including robust military types and doctors. It was surreal, I have never seen anything like that regarding bodies from any disaster. There is no way that kind of rot could have set in in such a short time unless the bodies were indeed dead long before the shoot down.
    It is extremely important to re-enforce reality with the fact that the bodies were rotten, because this proves beyond any doubt that THIS WAS NOT FLIGHT MH17, THERE IS NO POSSIBLE CONCIEVABLE WAY IT WAS NO MATTER WHAT STORIES ARE SPUN AND THEORIES ARE PRESENTED. I could care less what the MSM spins about this, the rotten bodies alone renders everything else irrelevant. There is no middle ground to be had with this.

    GAZA Last night Mexican television did a huge segment on Gaza. In some scenes nothing identifiable is left, with only a barren lanscape of destroyed concrete and collapsed buildings all the way to the horizon (as far as the camera could see). It looks like Israel did the big dirty under the cover of "flight 370MH17," which was a heinous zio crime all by itself.
    After the scene of total devastation, they aired video of a portion of gaza that appeared mostly intact, and went into a segment about displaced families and how the entire water infrastructure was completely destroyed and there was no safe water to drink other than stores of it that were made ready beforehand.

    The number of dead listed is laughable, it has to be tens or hundreds of thousands. There is no way out of this, but I am certain that when all is said and done, the ziopress will firmly re-enforce the solid concrete fact that fewer than 50 people died, just like they did at Jenin and the Mexican press is reporting that Gaza is a war crime and it is all Israel's fault.

    Not a 777?

    Someone did a poor report saying it was not a 777 based upon the engines. However, it is obvious that MH17 crashed at hundreds of miles an hour, probably well over 350, and the reference plane (that crash in California last year) actually made a partially safe landing and the ripped off engine was intact. You cannot do comparisons between totally demolished engines and one that is intact, and from what I can see in the pieces laying around from the smashed to pieces engines of flight 370 (I am calling it now, it is time to stop playing games with this) all the pieces are there, including the large pieces.
    I looked through the wreckage myself and see dissasembled Trent 892 engines. Enough pictures of the internal parts are available to show they are all there. The huge bell ends disintigrated in the crash, and what is left looks like a smaller engine if you do not look for pieces elsewhere. The big blades are there, ripped off and strewn through the wreckage.

    The Mexican slant on America trying to blame Russia

    Last night the Mexican press did a huge piece on flight 370 Er, uh, "MH17." They aired all the footage from the Russian satellites which proved Ukraine shot it down, and then went on an endless rant about how America is trying to blame Russia. I could not make out the actual take, if the Mexican press believes Russia did it or not, but I would guess that if they aired the radar records as well, which showed two Ukranian jets just as the original tower reports said (and subsequently got deleted off Twitter) and then followed up with what the Russian satellites said, that they showed enough truth to make even the brainless aware of what actually happened.
    July 21 2014

    Russian satellites and American satellites recorded the truth

    America is being forced to backtrack on accusations that Russia downed flight MH17 after Russia produced proof that (as this web site reported on day one,) Ukranian fighter jets were accompanying flight MH17. Now an AP reporter has also stepped forward, saying that all along, from day one, he was shown proof that American satellites also tracked the shoot down, and that America knew Ukraine downed the plane as well.
    On day one this web site clearly stated this shoot down was done in Ukraine BY UKRAINE when the real MH17 is never supposed to get within 200 KM of where this plane was shot down. This shoot down was done 200KM East of MH17´s established flight path because the outcome of the investigation could be controlled in that region and falsified to forever hide that beyond a reasonable doubt the plane was in fact flight 370. A real investigation would look at serial numbers on parts which would identify the plane they came from, and would not be limited to photos of a paint job and even those photos are totally messed up when all sources of them are put together in the same bin. A summary of the evidence proving this was flight 370, including what happened to the MH17 "passengers" is below:

    Questions answered

    The most asked question is "what about the passengers who boarded MH17."? Answer: Obviously, with the doctors claiming to have DNA identified the passengers on day two which is days too soon because you need two samples to identify anyone - one from before the passenger boarded which would be gathered from the home and one of the passenger, to match to the passenger, that statement is patently false because it could not be done that quickly and if they had to say that and were willing to this early on, they are lying about everything and it then becomes obvious that perhaps NONE of the stated passengers were aboard.
    It is impossible get DNA identification THAT FAST when samples have to be gathered from Holland, China, Malaysia and other places from homes and elsewhere to be matched against people on the plane, and the fact the MSM is reporting that this was accomplished within two days, analyzed and matched to passengers proves the entire official story is a lie. It would be difficult to get to even one home and collect a decent sample in two days, let alone every home everywhere, and AFTER getting that sample then actually analyze it, a process which by itself takes days.

    The obviously brand new passports also proves no one listed actually boarded any flight MH17.

    Every passport gathered from the wreckage was absolutely totally and completely sparkly new as if it had never been touched before. This was shown in numerous youtube videos and higher quality photos. In any stack of passports gathered from people at random you would probably get one or two like that, but the fact that not a single one showed any wear at all proves that they were all printed a couple days prior to be used for falsifying who was on the plane. There should have been a mix of new, lightly used and totally dog eared passports if they really were as claimed. Once again, along with the phony DNA identification claims, the all 100 percent sparkly new passports reveal the lie. Obviously ZERO passports were on that plane, and a psy op team went through the wreckage and threw them there. The shoot down was well planned and teams were ready.
    The rotten bodies proves no one living boarded that plane

    Military commanders confirmed that a large portion of the bodies in the wreckage were rotten, drained of blood and dead for days before the plane even took off. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT ANOMALY WITH A RATIONAL BRAIN? Well, Rense said they were in the cargo hold and regular passengers were in the cabin, but that is a dubious claim when the air in the cargo hold of a 777 (which is pressurized) gets circulated through the main cabin as well as a normal matter of course which would have stunk so bad NO ONE would ever board, there were TONS of sparkly new passports and not a single used one, and "everyone was already DNA identified on DAY TWO" which would be flatly impossible.
    The fact that flight MH17 continued on schedule without a hitch afterward also proves no one living boarded MH17 BECAUSE THAT ROUTE LOST ZERO AIRPLANES.

    The fact that it is business as usual already also proves Route MH17 never lost an airplane. Can you see what I am getting at here? If you are waiting for the liars in the media to say OH, WE DID IT, THAT WAS FLIGHT 370, WE FAKED THE PASSPORTS, FAKED THE BOARDING LOGS FOR MH17 TO SPOOF BUSINESS AS USUAL AND SHOT DOWN FLIGHT 370 WITH ROTTEN BODIES ABOARD you are waiting for pathological liars to get well.
    BUT WAIT, THERE IS MORE!

    The media lies in this psy op just keep on giving - such as the 108 dead aids researchers on the plane, which this web site totally trashed, forcing a redaction of that statement and a reduction of that number to SIX. 108 DOES NOT EQUAL SIX. HOW DOES THAT MATCH THE BOARDING LOG? Quite well if it was phony and NEVER EXISTED.
    How about another media screw up?

    How about this one - the plane was 200 KM off course, 200KM TOO FAR INTO UKRAINE, 200 KM FARTHER THAN IT WOULD EVER BELONG AND THE MEDIA NEVER SAID IT. WHY? ANSWER: Because it had to be 200 KM off course to get to where completely zionist controlled people were to make good and sure a legitimate investigation, which would have identified it as flight 370, never got done. And it also as a bonus could be used to spin the lie that Russia did it.
    And what about the three different departure times stated in the media? And the fact that it was listed as cancelled by the biggest aircraft tracking web site out there?

    Obviously no one could get a departure time for MH17, because it stayed on the ground and a different plane took off so everyone in the media guessed and that created conflicts.

    Is it obvious now? Sparkly clean passports showing up with no used ones in the mix, Completely DNA matched passengers being stated in the news when it is flatly impossible to even get pre crash samples that fast, the fact that NO ONE living would board a plane that had rotting corpses aboard, corpses that were not bagged and showed up in the wreckage like normal passengers, 108 aids doctors supposedly on the flight manifest reduced to 6, the plane being 200KM off course for no reason, THREE DIFFERENT DEPARTURE TIMES STATED, the largest flight web site listing it as canceled, THE PERFECT RESUMPTION OF FLIGHT MH17 AS IF NOT A SINGLE PLANE WAS LOST and probably 50 other details out there to be had PROVES THERE WAS NO MH17 AND THIS WAS DISPOSAL OF A DIFFERENT AIRCRAFT AND LOAD OF PASSENGERS.
    What more can I say? I cannot think for you, if you are STILL ASKING WHAT ABOUT THE PASSENGERS WHO BOARDED MH17 WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE PERFECTLY DOCUMENTED IN THE PAGE BELOW, I GIVE UP.

    HERE IS THE OBVIOUS ANSWER: Someone with a billion dollar budget bought all seats on MH17, ordered the plane to stay grounded, created fake boarding log, drafted up fake passports, and remote flew flight 370 and all original people on flight 370 out of the same airport while making sure they were good and dead beforehand so they could not talk about Diego Garcia, mixed them with perhaps a few other undesirables that were already whacked as well and then flew flight 370 to its final disposal over Ukraine. They had to get rid of that plane somehow, and the perfect corresponding time of shootdown with the time of the beginning of the ground assault on Gaza pretty much sews up WHO STOLE FLIGHT 370.





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