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    Re: ELENIB/PLANET X/NIBIRU

    Post  Carol on Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:31 pm

    I was in contact with them when they were still in Australia. Since Stan based some of his future viewpoints on dreams I tend to be more skeptical regarding that type of data. The data I did appreciate was scientific based. I also read Stan's and Holly's books. I liked what Holly put together.

    However, there are some people so caught up in the end game scenario as outlined in the Bible that their mind-controlled conditioning dominates rational thinking at times. Stan is one of those people.

    Now... I have noticed a more intense inner drive to be prepared should the grid go down and supplies are no longer available due to the breakdown of transportation. 97% of Hawaii's food is imported. The key things for me is the solar generator recently purchased so as to operated the water pump. So you see - there still is the intention to prepare but for different reasons then what Stan puts out with regard to the Biblical description of the end of days. The way that I look at it the end of days is hopefully the end of endarkenment, where which follows is a new spiritual renascence. So even though things look bleak my hope is that humanity will be snatched from the dragon's teeth and be saved.


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    Re: ELENIB/PLANET X/NIBIRU

    Post  lindabaker on Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:40 pm

    "So even though things look bleak my hope is that humanity will be snatched from the dragon's teeth and be saved."

    Time for the Phoenix and the Dragon to make their final scene...and the Phoenix, of course, rises, even though she is on fire from the Dragon's breath, she lives.




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    Re: ELENIB/PLANET X/NIBIRU

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:32 pm

    Many of us were programmed with the Bible as being an 'Infallible Given' -- rather than simply being a highly significant set of clues. Also, a lot of people don't read the Bible from cover to cover -- and they don't REALLY think about what they're reading. What the preacher shouts from the pulpit (or what the church teaches) trumps just about everything else -- whether it makes sense, or not.
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    Re: ELENIB/PLANET X/NIBIRU

    Post  lindabaker on Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:22 pm

    Very good point, Oxy

    Everyone has a filter of some sort, don't they?
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    Re: ELENIB/PLANET X/NIBIRU

    Post  Carol on Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:31 pm

    lindabaker wrote:"So even though things look bleak my hope is that humanity will be snatched from the dragon's teeth and be saved."

    Time for the Phoenix and the Dragon to make their final scene...and the Phoenix, of course, rises, even though she is on fire from the Dragon's breath, she lives.





    I do think things will get a bit worse first. Being snatched from the dragon's teeth means most think they're done for. Personally, I find this a very exciting and sad time to be living. The school lessons are much more intense for many.

    I had the oddest dream last night. Sitting comfortably in my home it's easy to fantasize that I would know what to do if I became destitute. One can always fall back on inner resources and find a way. But in the dream I was without resources. I was tired, dirty and hungry with nowhere to go. It was in this dream and thinking about it afterwards that I realized then when one's own inner resources are depleted and one is emotionally exhausted - one's state of being is compromised. Shelter is important. Having a safe place to sleep is important. Having a means to provide the basic necessities for oneself is important. So even though I've mapped out different alternative scenarios should I fall upon such a situation I also realize just how difficult it would be to move forward when one has been slapped down. I suspect this feeling of being slapped down is pretty much the feeling one would have in the dragon's teeth.


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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:24 pm

    We seem to gravitate toward Greed and Fear -- Fight and Flight -- rather than Principles and Concepts -- Responsibility and Freedom. Perhaps this will never change. I don't know. I have books of speeches by John Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, and Ron Paul. Perhaps I should skip the UFO, Alien, and End of the World stuff for a while. I feel a bit like the ant who keeps trying to climb out of a hole -- and keeps sliding back down. I get the feeling that the PTB (human and otherwise) intend to carry out their long-term plans -- regardless of the idealistic rantings and ravings of the 'save the humans' groups.
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    Post  Floyd on Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:23 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:We seem to gravitate toward Greed and Fear

    Run Run for your lives..

    There is a thread over on Project Avalon where Mr Ryan says he has credible evidence to suggest the elites etc are about to jump ship, in other words leave the planet to a rotting decay to go to a more benevolent off planet clime...

    His aggregate of sources include such comedians as Dan Burisch, Charles, Henry Deacon and George Green of Hatonn fame.

    It is certainly tragic to witness people taking this seriously.

    Now lets not forget the credible source Pete Peterson who said we would run out of oxygen by 2010 and nobody has heard from the blighter since.

    Luckily we jumped in our escape pods and catapulted ourselves here as not to be subject to this..well ..only what I can describe as complete and utter fear mongering bullshit.

    Bad aura dudes.
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    Post  gscraig on Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:50 pm

    Floyd, you finally said something that can actually be supported. Keep up the improvement. Granted, know one asked you, but hey...
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    Post  Floyd on Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:55 pm

    gscraig wrote:Floyd, you finally said something that can actually be supported. Keep up the improvement. Granted, know one asked you, but hey...

    Unfortunately I wish the same could be said for your good self but hope fails me.
    Is there anything in particular you can think that has not been supported ?


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    Re: ELENIB/PLANET X/NIBIRU

    Post  Carol on Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:03 pm


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjWMGaloEuE&feature=player_embedded
    Israel braces for attack, Planet X returns, Maps of future submerged world







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    Re: ELENIB/PLANET X/NIBIRU

    Post  Floyd on Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:07 pm

    Do You think Planet X exists Carol?
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    Post  Carol on Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:18 pm

    What I do know is that I had a very credible military friend who was at the Vatican Observatory in Arizona and saw it. He describe what Mercuriel posted in the photos. So yes, it was there.

    I don't know if it is still there. Given what is being shared about secret government and ET activities it is possible that is no longer exists.

    In addition after listening to John Moore's video there are also some questions left unanswered. I've no doubt he believed what he was sharing to be true but I do doubt his information source and wonder if it is credible. In addition Shredlow was pretty clear that the NWO's agenda has been ramped up to be completed by this year. So the way I look at it is DO NOT go into a fear mode or be manipulated by data that cannot be verified. Some things we just won't know about until it is upon on.

    However, Mercurial and I both started out accepting that Nibiru was a reality based on scientific photographic evidence. With so much disinformation floating around it's difficult to discern whether it's still there or not.


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    Post  Floyd on Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:22 pm

    What does your intuition tell you, regardless of the various (mis)information.

    Do you think its headed for our planet at a particular moment in time, if indeed it does exist, furthermore would you be weary of any inhabitants it may or not have?

    Are you and Mercurial astronomers?

    Shall we start panicking about this alleged heavenly beast?
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    Post  Carol on Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:04 pm

    My intuition tells me something is there. I sense something large - heavy/dense. What I don't know is how it will interact with the sun, which will likely result in increased solar activity as it orbits around it. I also suspect there will be an increase in comets/astroids that trail in its wake. A number of folks are convinced of a pole shift but I don't sense that anytime in the near future.


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    Post  Floyd on Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:22 pm

    solar flares have been predicted for a while for the end of this year. We all know there is nothing conspiratorial about that.

    What about the alleged Planet X and its inhabitants. Any thoughts on that?

    Intuition is as fine as any science or conspiracy theory. So thanks for your thoughts Carol.


    I wouldnt want the young teenage folk out there worrying about a non existent planet of doom though or the LHC black hole. There have been a couple of suicides already and maybe more will follow.

    Its all this fear you see.

    Food for the negatives as you called it.

    Best to stop feeding them no?



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    Post  Carol on Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:32 pm

    I've no clue if it's inhabited. It's possible. What we do know is that the sun acts as a solar capacitor with comets and astroids create. I can just imagine what this will do with the moons it's dragging along with it as it orbits the sun. It really isn't worth going into the fear mode until something actually happens. I recall not to long ago when I thought the car was going to crash and actually screamed (meaning been in that situation before and never uttered a peep). We just do the best that we can with what we are given in the moment.

    The key is not to give into fear irrespective of multiple future possibilities. We can't know until something is upon us to know what to expect. And even then we don't know what the outcome will be. I want to be around to watch what happens.

    Frankly, I'm more unhappy with what Obama is doing as President and what's happening to our country then worried about what PX may do. PX may be a welcome relief.


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    Re: Elenin/PlanetX/Nibiru

    Post  Jenetta on Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:34 pm

    Well I see the Rocky Mountains are going to get awfully crowded with all the Bible thumpers moving there...

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    Post  Floyd on Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:40 pm

    Carol wrote:
    Frankly, I'm more unhappy with what Obama is doing as President and what's happening to our country then worried about what PX may do. PX may be a welcome relief.
    Im sorry to inform you they have healthcare for the needy on Niburu (planet x).
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    Well Carol.. Its a wait and see policy mate but I bet you X is a no show along with disclosure etc.

    And im willing to put cash on it!

    I wonder how many of us will still be posting on this website in 5 years time?

    Well, even though we all have our moments its been a nice trip. And there is something in that. Like a family argument.
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    Post  Floyd on Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:11 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote: regardless of the idealistic rantings and ravings of the 'save the humans' groups.
    Who are these groups Oxy?
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    Post  Carol on Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:23 pm

    I hope it's a no show too Floyd. And goofing off on the forum 5 years from now would be fun. Only by then I hope to be doing a lot more traveling by RV when our daughter is off in college.


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    Post  Floyd on Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:32 pm

    Carol wrote:I hope it's a no show too Floyd. And goofing off on the forum 5 years from now would be fun. Only by then I hope to be doing a lot more traveling by RV when our daughter is off in college.

    By then, hopefully, the Mists of Avalon will have obscured all the sillyness.

    Perhaps then we can start talking about 2025?
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:01 pm

    Floyd wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote: regardless of the idealistic rantings and ravings of the 'save the humans' groups.
    Who are these groups Oxy?
    I didn't have any specific groups in mind. I guess the term might include any group opposed to environmental destruction and extermination or genocide. As I have promoted turning Planet Purgatory into Planet Paradise -- I have experienced a strange and creepy resistance -- some of which I'd rather not talk about. I still worry that the Human Race was doomed from the moment it was Created or Genetically-Engineered. I suspect a Human Race v Pre-Human Race conflict among Soul-Relatives. As usual, most of my thoughts continue to be Political and Theological Science-Fiction -- which just so happens to scare the hell out of me.
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    Re: ELENIB/PLANET X/NIBIRU

    Post  Carol on Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:24 pm


    Astronomer Insists There's A Planet X Four TimesThe Size Of Earth Lurking At The Edge Of Our Solar System
    http://www.thesciencenews.info/2012/06/astronomer-insists-theres-planet-x-four.html
    Monday, 18 June 2012 - The Science News: The evidence for 'Planet X' - the mysterious hypothesised planet on the edge of our solar system - has taken a new turn thanks to the mathematics of a noted astronomer. Rodney Gomes, an astronomer at the National Observatory of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro, says the irregular orbits of small icy bodies beyond Neptune imply that a planet four times the size of Earth is swirling around our sun in the fringes of the solar system.


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    Post  Floyd on Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:37 pm

    That's an interesting read Carol, cheers.

    There is an ocean of difference between the alleged Niburu and its alien population, and a hypothetical planet on the edge of our solar system that, unlike Niburu, will never come near Earth's orbit and probably contains no life forms.


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