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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:32 pm

    I'd like to take a closer look at Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton. I feel quite close to them editorially - but I can't verify their sources or information. Some might think that they are out of date and obsolete - but the passage of time provides the opportunity to evaluate these people. I know who Bill Cooper is - but who is Commander X and Branton? Could they all be the same person? I will try to assemble links to their various videos and material - for quick reference. I have made it no secret that I am not happy with the church or the new age. I'm trying to find a Spiritual Switzerland somewhere between the two. Perhaps Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton can help me in my quest. I'm not pushing these sources - but they are the sort of thing I like to look at - which are not the old explanations - but yet which do not get into a lot of complex new age concepts and terminology. This sort of thing fits into my quest for a legitimate and reasonable solar system governmental system. Some of this may seem boring - but the overall picture which emerges is anything but boring. I've covered this territory before - but now I wish to take a second or third look at it. I keep saying this over and over - but just treat all of this fringe material as if it were science fiction - which might contain some elements of truth. Use it as a means to think in unconventional ways. But please don't take it too seriously - or get too upset by it. I'm probably preaching to the choir on this website - but one never knows who might be visiting. I think the insane asylums are going to be packed over the next few years. There is just too much conflicting and upsetting information available to the general public at this time. I support the freedom of speech - but I wish for a responsible and organized way to inform people regarding hidden things and forbidden knowledge. Perhaps this website can help to accomplish this goal. I just realized that I haven't been exposed to a lot of this material linked below. I will make going through all of this my highest priority. Believe it or not, I am attempting to be a Silent Partner of the PTB. I really am trying to imagine myself as being in the shoes of the individual portrayed in my avatar. I am speculating that someone similar to this, might be the chief administrator in this solar system - although there may very well be others above them. Again - a lot of this is speculation - with circumstantial evidence. Obviously - those who really know the full truth aren't holding press conferences to blurt out everything they know - and I can't say that I blame them...

    Bill Cooper:

    1. Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper

    2. Behold a Pale Horse: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2414574348304077734#docid=-7367255331569182231

    3. Mystery Babylon Series (Introduction): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#

    4. Mystery Babylon Series (The Dawn of Man): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=322062192338580080

    5. Mystery Babylon Series (The Ultimate Disaster): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-7947180418334137151

    6. Mystery Babylon Series (Antiquities): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-8515207589476663880

    7. Mystery Babylon Series (The Assassins and the Templars): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=4965591825734998419

    8. Mystery Babylon Series (Secret Societies and Vatican II): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=1135906265239711380

    9. Mystery Babylon Series (The Occult and the Third Reich): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=7668134745163879197

    10. Mystery Babylon Series (NWO and Freemasonry): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-6382076427116550418

    11. Mystery Babylon Series (From Christianity to Babylon): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=2458737986938578435

    12. Mystery Babylon Series (The Godmakers): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=7883892402084884986

    13. Mystery Babylon Series (Maitreya): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=4719756572505397357

    14. Mystery Babylon Series (Osiris and Isis Part 1): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-6551328214605316337

    15. Mystery Babylon Series (Osiris and Isis Part 2): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-7519109295749987423

    16. Mystery Babylon Series (Gnosticism): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-206066985099150303

    17. Mystery Babylon Series (Initiation): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-91204628453940773

    18. Mystery Babylon Series (Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare Part 1): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-7472911961003724780

    19. Mystery Babylon Series (The End of the Templars): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-258086454004961749

    20. Mystery Babylon Series (William Morgan Interview): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-5650056163643385428

    21. Mystery Babylon Series (Ecumenism): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=1609106881997572639

    22. Mystery Babylon Series (Letter by a Humanist Police Chief): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=6332624093206642079

    23. Mystery Babylon Series (The UN Meditation Room): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=4604236815407306259

    24. Mystery Babylon Series (Sun Worship): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-2002620178209550141

    25. Mystery Babylon Series (Roshaniya): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-1445343576831966294

    26. NASA Mooned America: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=3419977368243743187

    27. The Legacy of William Cooper: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-2829245257205113781

    28. Jordan Maxwell Interview: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-5315286351751507601

    29. Lansing, Michigan Lecture: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599318374287156941#docid=-3333362025779394383

    30. Atlanta, Georgia Lecture: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7367255331569182231#docid=700020122524128822

    31. Las Vegas (MUFON) Lecture: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7367255331569182231#docid=-4574387786893863155

    32. Day of 9/11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPH0ym_XxKQ

    Commander X:

    1. Secret Underground Lecture: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5479583028945015769#

    Branton:

    1. Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branton_Files

    2. The Dulce Book: http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dulce_book.htm

    3. The Omega Files: http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/omegafileintro.htm

    4. The Coscon Files: http://informantnews.com/joesufos/coscon/index.html

    5. Secrets of the Mojave: http://informantnews.com/joesufos/mojave/index.html

    6. Fire from the Sky: http://informantnews.com/joesufos/fire/index.html

    7. The Underground Nazi Invasion of the United States: http://informantnews.com/joesufos/nazi/index.html


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    Re: Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton

    Post  TRANCOSO on Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:47 pm

    Bill Cooper, in his book 'Behold a Pale Horse' revealed very accuratly what was gonna happen & what we could expect in the near future.

    The book was given to me by a very dear friend of mine - a (Jewish) rabi - with the words: "If you really want to know how things work, read this."

    (If I remember well, my first post at PA1 was about this book, - & when I read it - & you were the first to reply Oxy, telling me I mixed up the dates, because when I supposedly read the book, it wasn't even published yet.)

    Anyway, when I read 'Behold a Pale Horse' again, somewhere around the time of my first post at PA1, I was impressed of how much Bill Cooper predicted in his book actually happened/was happening.

    Branton is someone I also respect a lot, although I'm a bit put off by his 'new born Christian' rap.

    I.m.o. religion - any religion - is as much of a fraud, as 'Big Media' is.

    Think for yourself, come to your own conclusions, & don't believe the hypes.

    Hypes as in 'disclosure'.

    There will be disclosure, when contact is imminent, meaning that whatever Alien civilisation will show itself, without a shadow of a (false flag operation) doubt, TPTB will have no other choice, but to disclose their UFO secrets. Which also will be a (conspiracy) scam of sorts.

    I'm convinced of only one thing: 'They' will never allow 'us' to destroy this planet.

    But we play no part in the whole matter at all.

    We're a genetic experiment that's repeated over & over again, untill one fine day 'we' - the experiment - succeed(s). The DNA of that type of human being will be used to populate numerous Earth-like planets.

    As Above, So Below - there is a sort of status quo between the worst thinkable (alien) enemies, based upon a mutual respect for Earth-like planets.

    Read Courtney Brown's 'Cosmic Voyage' & 'Cosmic Explorers' (free download at www.courtneybrown.com ).


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    Post  Carol on Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:20 am

    I spent a major part of my day listening to John Moore and have arrived at the conclusion that the 10th planet in Bible is Wormwood.. the closer one is to the equator the better off one will be because the climate isn’t going to change that much. The 10 planet comes through the solar system interacting with electro plate, gravity and earth. What to expect is abrupt climate change and rapidly rising oceans over a 30 day period. Oceans would become violent with massive violent ocean waves. This is a cyclic process that generally happens every 3,600 years and it is past due. I also suspect that much of religion is superstition and myth based on deep seated fears in an attempt to explain the unexplainable when it comes to these massive earth changes. I do accept authentic spiritual masters and Christ.. and aliens along with life on other planets. And I also think a lot of info out there is rubbish.

    However, I also liked Bill Cooper, watched his videos and have his book. He was a truth teller. I don't know the second person you have listed OXY and am interested in watching the Mystery of Babylon. However, many of the mystery religions speak in code and only those people who are initiates get to know what the code it. Of course the ultimate code is DNA as it will undergo a transformation as we are exposed to more solar x-rays and gamma rays reach the planet.



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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:56 am

    Thank-you TRANCOSO and Carol. I am both for religion and against religion - which is why I chose the name orthodoxymoron. I keep thinking of myself as a renegade reformer of the Roman Catholic Church - rather than being an enemy of religion and an enemy of the Creator God of the Universe. I simply have issues with how business is being conducted in this solar system. I probably couldn't do any better if I had the chance, but I feel a responsibility to attempt to help to make things better - in my own way and in my own time. An Episcopalian rector once told me that I looked as though I was carrying the weight of the whole world - and that I looked as though I had lost my last friend. When I was 12 years old - a girl called me 'Droopy'. A Catholic Priest told me not to be so hard on myself. He was a very friendly and animated person. I'd like to know what became of him. I'm truly afraid to know my reincarnational history. Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton obviously came from a Christian background - but they obviously knew that something was very, very wrong with business as usual. I guess I'm using their material as a home-base of sorts - as a point of reference - as I'm exposed to more and more disorienting material. I keep wishing to attend some type of church - but so far, all I'm doing is listening to classical sacred music and Latin Masses, while I read the Four Gospels, and assorted theological materials. You can stop going to church - but don't stop studying theology. I continue to think that theology is central to disclosure. Even abraxasinas thought so!

    Who is the most knowledgeable person in the world regarding Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton? Who is their rightful heir? Who is continuing what they started? I think a lot of people have been influenced by them - but who has really focused on them? Who has imitated their style and methodology? I'm going to focus on them for the next few weeks anyway. I think there are some Jesuits and Alphabet Agents who probably are the most knowledgeable people in the world regarding Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton - and they probably know a lot of damning things about them as well - but these people will probably always remain hidden from the general public. I would LOVE to see the Vatican, NSA, FBI, and CIA files on Bill Cooper, Commander X, and Branton!!!!! Can you imagine?????
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:19 am

    Carol wrote:I spent a major part of my day listening to John Moore and have arrived at the conclusion that the 10th planet in Bible is Wormwood.. the closer one is to the equator the better off one will be because the climate isn’t going to change that much. The 10 planet comes through the solar system interacting with electro plate, gravity and earth. What to expect is abrupt climate change and rapidly rising oceans over a 30 day period. Oceans would become violent with massive violent ocean waves. This is a cyclic process that generally happens every 3,600 years and it is past due. I also suspect that much of religion is superstition and myth based on deep seated fears in an attempt to explain the unexplainable when it comes to these massive earth changes. I do accept authentic spiritual masters and Christ.. and aliens along with life on other planets. And I also think a lot of info out there is rubbish.

    However, I also liked Bill Cooper, watched his videos and have his book. He was a truth teller. I don't know the second person you have listed OXY and am interested in watching the Mystery of Babylon. However, many of the mystery religions speak in code and only those people who are initiates get to know what the code it. Of course the ultimate code is DNA as it will undergo a transformation as we are exposed to more solar x-rays and gamma rays reach the planet.


    I continue to be skeptical regarding all of the naturally occurring Earth changes, Sun changes, Planet X induced changes, Crossing the Galactic Plane induced changes, etc. I suspect deliberate extermination events disguised as any or all of the above. I continue to think that we are being messed with in the worst way by those who hate us to the core. Is all of this cr@p a continuing human vs human civil war, which might include human/reptile hybrids masquerading as aliens? If any of you human/reptile super-soldiers are reading this - can't we just call the whole damn thing off - and resolve whatever issues exist - in a rational and non-violent manner? Perhaps some of you should consider changing sides. I stand by everything I've said on Avalon 1 and Mists of Avalon. I suspect a hybridization program gone bad. I also suspect an advanced technology program gone bad. But why does the madness have to continue? In 1994 or 1995 Alex Collier stated that the regressive aliens were a heck of a lot more responsible than our leaders (or something to that effect). What the heck is going on? Did some of the hybrids rebel against the Queen of Heaven? Are we dealing with several factions of escaped hybrids - throughout the solar system? Why can't we arrive at some sort of a non-violent solution? Why can't this solar system be administered in a rational, organized, and responsible manner - which guarantees responsible freedom for all races? I haven't decided whether there is a legitimate place for hybridization or not - but it sounds like a lot of the genetic hybridization might be horrific and highly unethical. Once again - I don't know what's really going on - so I continue my little guessing game - posting here and there on the internet - hoping that it does someone some good - somewhere and somehow.

    I just finished listening to the 'Dawn of Man' broadcast - and in it, Bill states that he is a Christian who follows the words attributed to Jesus - and that he does not follow any church or religion. I suspected that he was a Red Letter Christian - but this was confirmation. I am a Red Letter Christian, as well - but I have only about 5% of Bill's brains, guts, and determination. Bill supported the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution - and so do I.

    In Cooper's 1989 MUFON lecture - he stated that the 'aliens' presented a hologram of the Crucifixion of Christ. Did ET record the crucifixion - or did they project a hologram of the crucifixion from a UFO? Here is a link to paintings of the Crucifixion of Christ - with UFO's in the sky. Notice the image near the middle of the first page, in which a UFO appears to be illuminating the crucifixion. Could the UFO be projecting a hologram? Just wondering. http://www.google.com/images?rlz=1T4GGIR_enUS216US217&q=crucifixion+ufo+image&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=SsHBTNS9EMqs8Ab52ejMBg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQsAQwAA

    I've been listening to a lot of the Cooper shows - and when I finish - I'll start over again. Is anyone else listening to the linked shows and lectures in the first post of this thread? I think this is foundational information. Obviously, we can consider everything from every source, but I think that if we neglect the Cooper stuff, that we may very well get a lot of other things wrong. I don't think we have the luxury of getting a lot of things wrong at this point. Conduit Closing.



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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:31 pm

    I've been playing these old Cooper shows as I fall asleep - so I consciously listen to the first 10-20 minutes - and then I listen to the rest as I sleep. 'Uncle Bill's Bedtime Stories'! I'm trying to program myself with the Cooper material - for a couple of weeks. I am also playing the Cooper shows as I do various things throughout the day and night. I know I'm crazy - but I'm finding these shows to be somewhat calming - despite their controversial nature. Again - I don't wish to fight with the elites. I wish to understand them - and to ultimately partner with them on a higher road than they are presently travelling. I could possibly turn out to be their best buddy! I really and truly do not wish for anarchy and violence to sweep the world. Just the opposite. I think that most of us are deluded - and that we need to rethink everything. All of my internet posting over the last couple of years are my attempt to rethink a lot of things in an open manner. You folks who may have been monitoring my internet activities really don't have to guess about much. What you see is what you get. I've pretty much been blurting out everything - which really isn't that much. I'm too screwed-up to be much of a threat.


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    Post  Carol on Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:03 pm

    "Bill supported the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution - and so do I."

    I agree. It would be great to have a new political party titled the Constitionalists.. and really have them stick to the Constitution. Nor do I believe in the political end of religion and much of it is about greed and power. And I accept Christ in the purest simple form without all of the hoopla. I still can't get over how much the Catholic Church is into pomp and circumstance in how the clergy get dressed up. I kind of lean to the brown robes of the Franciscan monks wear. Just something simple.

    I also liked to listen to Bill talk.


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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:24 pm

    Carol wrote:"Bill supported the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution - and so do I."

    I agree. It would be great to have a new political party titled the Constitionalists.. and really have them stick to the Constitution. Nor do I believe in the political end of religion and much of it is about greed and power. And I accept Christ in the purest simple form without all of the hoopla. I still can't get over how much the Catholic Church is into pomp and circumstance in how the clergy get dressed up. I kind of lean to the brown robes of the Franciscan monks wear. Just something simple.

    I also liked to listen to Bill talk.

    Thank-you Carol. I am a huge contradiction. I don't like crucifixes, Dagon fish-headgear, crowns, thrones, blasphemous titles, corrupt and violent intrigue, astrological theology, a bloody communion which focuses upon human sacrifice, indulgences, crusades, inquisitions, and other excesses and abuses. I actually like the bright colors of the robes and stained-glass windows, the churches and cathedrals (they are already built, and should be enjoyed and preserved), the processions, the pomp and circumstance, the fragrance of the incense, the Gregorian chanting, the Latin, the classical and even showy pipe-organ and choral music, the assembled faithful singing in one accord, and the educated oratory of Jesuit priests - but this must be accompanied by consistent Christ-like living which arises from focusing upon Responsibility and the Teachings of Jesus. I think that Pope John Paul I was on the right track - but he was mysteriously murdered after being pope for only 33 days. Consider carefully the number 33. Was the timing coincidental? I think not. Church governance and policy should harmonize with the U.S. Constitution - rather than being at war with it. Notice the Treaty of Verona in the 'Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom' thread. The princes of the church should be confident, competent - and humble. There should be a teachable spirit - with no hint of arrogance. I don't wish to reinvent the wheel. I simply wish to make it completely round and true - so that it rotates smoothly. There is the Constitution Party - but they have some fundamentalist Christian additions to the Constitution. There is no political party which follows the Constitution - plus nothing. There is no Christian church which follows the Teachings of Jesus - plus nothing. Corruption and Cruelty are at the top of my Fecal List. Politcs is Religion. Religion is Politics. The question is 'Shall we have Fascism - or Shall we have Freedom?' Responsibility is the truth which shall set us free.

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    Post  aragami on Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:35 pm

    pretty sure commander x was an amalgamation of several different people
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:50 pm

    aragami wrote:pretty sure commander x was an amalgamation of several different people

    You may be correct - but the voice, concepts, and choice of words sound a lot like Bill Cooper. Commander X mentioned Bill Cooper by name in the video. Also - the length of the video is nearly identical to Bill's 1989 MUFON lecture. It's not inconceivable to me that Bill went underground after 911 to avoid really being taken out. He had legion enemies. The story connected with his death seems contrived and hokey to me. Bill spoke of dying on his doorstep - and then ironically - he dies on his doorstep. I could be wrong - and I hinted at this theory on AV1 - but I didn't blurt it out. It should've been obvious to the alphabet types anyway - without any hinting from the general public. Tangentially - Alex Collier hinted in a 1994 interview (I think) that Jesus was a composite character. I think this might be a distinct possibility. We may be in for a lot of surprises about a lot of things. They may need those damn FEMA camps to contain us when we go crazy. I hope not - but I am apprehensive regarding the true state of affairs in this solar system - and with the potential public reaction to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help us God.
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    Post  Carol on Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:48 pm

    I have to laugh about Alex Collier. However, I also read where the Pleiadians claim the following - "Before leaving Earth, left a spiritual leader called Jmmanuel, who later was known as Jesus. Jmmanuel was a very evolved soul, whose father was Gabriel of the Pleiades system and Mary who was of Lyran descent."

    Chew on that one for awhile.





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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:19 am

    Carol wrote:I have to laugh about Alex Collier. However, I also read where the Pleiadians claim the following - "Before leaving Earth, left a spiritual leader called Jmmanuel, who later was known as Jesus. Jmmanuel was a very evolved soul, whose father was Gabriel of the Pleiades system and Mary who was of Lyran descent."

    Chew on that one for awhile.




    Thank-you Carol. I like Alex Collier a lot. I think he knows the whole truth. I think he has told us a lot of truth - but I think that he knows a lot more - but he has told us all that he is able to - at this time. I also think that he has had to mix the truth with a certain amount of fable and bs. I think this may have been necessary - under the circumstances. In the movie 'Contact' - there is a big poster (outside of the antenna array area) of Jesus - with the words 'Jesus Was An Alien'. What if Gabriel is the equivalent of God the Father? What if Michael is the equivalent of God the Son (Jesus)? What if Lucifer is the equivalent of the Holy Spirit (Mary)? I continue to speculate about a three-way power struggle in this solar system - going back thousands, or tens of thousands, of years. The Nazis, Masons, and Magicians? Teutonic Zionists, Zionists, and Christ-like Responsible Freedom Proponents? Amen Ra, Hathor/Isis, and Horus? I think the Archangels, Sirius, and Tibet may have a lot to do with everything. Did Mary steal fire (forbidden technology and hybridization genetics?) from Gabriel? Is there a hidden war between Gabriel and Mary (the Queen of Heaven)? Is Jesus trying to break up the fight - and bring peace to this solar system? Consider this video clip once again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6eTbhHE0jM&feature=PlayList&p=C271BC15F76286EC&index=0&playnext=1YouTube- Is the man in the black suit really Gabriel? Is Jesus really Michael? Is the woman dressed in red really Lucifer? Why can't Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer unite under the banner of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom aka the United States of the Solar System? Why can't we keep the best of everything - and discard the worst of everything? Why does this have to be so damn hard? Is Saturday sacredness connected with Gabriel? Is Sunday sacredness connected with Lucifer? Or is it the other way around? Jesus didn't tell us to keep any day sacred - did he? I used to go to church on both Saturday and Sunday (I sang in choirs) - but now I don't go at all. I think that services should be offered every day - and that no particular sacredness should be ascribed to any day. Church attendance should not be expected or required - but it should always be an option for those who wish to participate - seven days a week. Thou shalt have no gods or goddesses - and remember to keep every day holy. World without end. I'm continuing to listen to Bill Cooper - and I'm liking what I'm hearing. I continue to think that this is foundational material. It's sort of like getting algebra and trigonometry mastered - before moving on to calculus. I would direct all new esoteric and conspiracy researchers to Bill Cooper first - and to get his material completely absorbed before moving on to other writers and speakers. He programs people with information - without programming them with anger and hatred. This is a good thing.

    Here is a Protestant view regarding the 'Woman Who Rides the Beast' aka the 'Whore of Babylon'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Ke7Tn3uOU&NR=1 I am not endorsing this video. I include it only to provide another perspective. Obviously - I have been considering the possibility that the 'Whore of Babylon' may be the 'Queen of Heaven' rather than being a particular location or church. Again - I have no animosity. I'm just trying to figure out what has been going on throughout history. I have a feeling that most of us are deluded - including me. Does anyone know how much the Whore of Babylon charges? Fifty Cities? Why is she called the 'Whore of Babylon'? Because she babbles on and on and on and on and I'd better stop...

    The following comment is just a brain-fart. In the Mass - the wafer or host is round - and some say that it is representative of the Sun - which is representative of the Sun God. Then, via transubstantiation, it becomes the Son of God. Have you ever thought of it in this manner? Sun > Son? I continue to think that most of our research topics should be addressed with the Roman Catholic Church clearly in mind - simply because all roads lead to Rome - and the Roman church is really the biggest game in town. To ignore this aspect of world history and the present state of affairs - is to really miss the boat. I see a central role for a completely reformed church. If the church is not reformed - we are really and truly $crewed. I continue to think of myself as a Renegade Roman Catholic Reformer - who is attempting to liberate the church - and hence the world - whether anyone wishes to be liberated, or not! Liberated? Liberated from what? If you only knew...
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:08 am

    I've been listening to Bill Cooper a lot lately - and I like Bill a lot - but I am completely different than him. I am going in a completely different direction. I'm not opposed to Bill - it's just that my conclusions and goals are very different in nature and style. I am much more passive and globalist. I'm trying to invite myself to the elite's party - and move them to a much higher road - rather than engaging in trench warfare with them. But I'm much more naive than Bill - and I need his guidance. Now I'm going to listen to another show...

    The 1970 movie with Glen Ford - 'The Brotherhood of the Bell' dovetails with Bill Cooper's material > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pst-2wprw6c Once again - I do not wish to reinvent the wheel. I simply wish for the psychology and ethics of every faction and class to be significantly raised. I'm really not trying to be a Knight in Shining Armour - just a critical yet silent uninvited parter of the PTB. I'm trying to be both the worst enemy and the best friend of the PTB. Now I'm going to listen to another Cooper show. This is the clip I keep going back to > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2414574348304077734#docid=-7367255331569182231 This clip should probably be listened to over and over and over and....
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:33 am

    Three of the links to the Mystery Babylon Series no longer work (Assassins and the Templars, Secret Societies and Vatican II, and Roshaniya). Why is this? What changed? Is this censorship at work? Any ideas? I've had two of my websites taken over (even though I was paid-up for years). One of my websites was taken off the internet completely (with no explanation). Two websites I have posted on have either been shut-down or closed to posting (with numerous technical problems). Numerous links on threads sudden don't work anymore. What the hell is going on?
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:28 pm

    This is just a bump. Bill Cooper continues to be a good starting point for those who wish to wade into the madness and bs. He didn't get everything right. He was a flawed human being. He didn't know about a lot of things which we are exposed to now. But he was really quite the trailblazer. Please consider the material on this thread. I mostly point people toward other people. I have been accused of being an egotistical ignoramus - and I quite agree. But I still have enough sense to point people toward people who knew, and know, a helluva lot more than I do.
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    Post  TRANCOSO on Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:02 am

    Binnall of America (BoA)presents: Timothy Good
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    http://www.binnallofamerica.com/boaa8.10.9.html

    Worldwide research, interviewing key witnesses and discussing the subject with astronauts, military and intelligence specialists, pilots, politicians and scientists, has established Timothy Good as a leading authority on UFOs and the alien presence - the most highly classified subject on Earth.

    topics discussed:

    - His latest book Need to Know

    - A number of elements of the UFO phenomenon which he has uncovered in his lengthy career

    - Early intelligence conflicts between the US and UK with regards to the Swedish 'Ghost Rockets' wave of the 1930's

    - Winston Churchill's failed attempts to find out about UFOs from the MoD

    - The story of Polish biophysicists and their visit to JPL where they saw remains of a dead alien possibly from Roswell

    - Information that Good has received about alien bases located around the world and what their purpose might be

    - The ongoing, secret conflict between Earth and alien races

    - Stories of retaliation by UFOs against planes that challenged them, the concept of 'gradual disclosure' of the UFO phenomenon

    - The MJ-12 papers

    - Good's role in their publication and what he really thinks was going on back in the 1980's when they were released

    - The state of Ufology in general

    I'm pretty sure you're really gonna enjoy this interview a lot, oxy.

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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:20 am

    Thank-you TRANCOSO. I have heard Timothy Good before - and I liked him a lot. I will take a look at the links today. There may be many researchers who know a lot more than Bill Cooper did in the 90's - but I still like to keep referring to Bill as a starting point. This alien/ufo subject is a very tangled web - with a lot of disinformation, deception, and hysteria. For most people - it's probably better to not spend too much time or energy on it - but somebody's got to do it!
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:07 pm

    That was a really good interview TRANCOSO. I keep getting the feeling that this solar system is filled with renegades - namely us - and that the rest of the universe is pissed-off at us - and that they are trying to reign us in - or exterminate us. My latest thought is that EVERYONE is wrong - and that we all have something to learn from this fiasco - throughout the entire universe.

    I'm currently reading 'The Underground Nazi Invasion of the United States'. http://informantnews.com/joesufos/nazi/1.html Anyone else listening to Bill Cooper, or reading the Branton-edited material? I thought not.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:34 pm

    Perhaps I need to reconsider Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. Perhaps the true Creator God of the Universe should rule this solar system, and the rest of the universe, as he or she sees fit. I have merely been trying to determine what went wrong in this solar system, and how to fix it. Aristocracy and Theocracy really didn't seem to work historically, and it seems that powerful entities, who are not the Creator God of the Universe, are attempting to play god here in this solar system. I simply didn't want Crusades, Inquisitions, Wars, and Atrocities to keep occurring. I simply wanted the madness to end - and for this solar system to be run properly. But judging from the response I have received - this solar system - and probably the rest of the universe - really does need a God to tell them what to do. But the Creator God of the Universe seems to be excluded from this solar system. Perhaps this is what needs to change. Perhaps the Creator God of the Universe needs to be invited back into this solar system. I continue to fly blind - without proper information - and this really isn't fair. How can I make proper decisions without proper information. So I'm going to stop pushing a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom Solar System - until I have better information upon which to make any kind of a determination regarding Solar System Governance. I'm sorry to have bothered all of you. God help us.
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    Post  TRANCOSO on Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:04 pm

    The Legacy Of William Bill Cooper - part 1 of 9

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    Post  TRANCOSO on Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:14 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:That was a really good interview TRANCOSO. I keep getting the feeling that this solar system is filled with renegades - namely us - and that the rest of the universe is pissed-off at us - and that they are trying to reign us in - or exterminate us. My latest thought is that EVERYONE is wrong - and that we all have something to learn from this fiasco - throughout the entire universe.

    I'm currently reading 'The Underground Nazi Invasion of the United States'. http://informantnews.com/joesufos/nazi/1.html Anyone else listening to Bill Cooper, or reading the Branton-edited material? I thought not.
    Yes, I thought you would like that. One of the best, most indepth UFO related interview I've ever listened to, imo. The 'state of Ufology anno 2010' in a nutshell.

    Not sure if you had already posted 'The Legacy Of William Bill Cooper' series. scratch

    study 'Nazi International' by Joseph Farrell.
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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:20 pm

    Thank-you TRANCOSO. Bill Cooper continues to be my starting-point and reference-point in this crazy world of fringe-research. In a memo, President Bill Clinton referred to Bill Cooper as being the most dangerous radio-host in America. I think Bill got to the heart of the matter - especially in the early 1990's. I keep thinking that Bill survived that 'shootout' - and went underground - perhaps surfacing as Commander X. I will now rewatch the video you posted. Thanks again. I'm reading 'SS Brotherhood of the Bell' by Joseph Farrell, and 'Rise of the Fourth Reich' by Jim Marrs. We really are having to deal with some horrendous problems. I hope we survive.
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    Post  Aquaries1111 on Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:15 pm

    I just had my first breakdown after meditating on William Cooper.. It hit me what a great inspiration he was in many a life. I have been impacted so deeply by this man in such a short period of time I give my gratitude for his life.





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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:57 pm

    Thank-you A1. I don't know how much of Cooper's info is legitimate and verifiable. He even questioned his own material -- which was probably a good thing. I simply 'enjoy' listening to Bill Cooper. The problem I seem to be having is information overload and disorientation. I'd like the world to be somewhat simple, stable, and trouble-free -- yet the reality is just the opposite -- and my efforts to resolve the madness lead me into ever greater perplexity, complexity, and uncertainty. This could ultimately result in a Breakdown, Shutdown, and Lockup -- which is why I continue to be very wary about Waking-Up the General-Public. This Info-War thing could get VERY nasty.
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    Post  magamud on Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:26 pm

    This guy sounds like William Cooper a bit. Thanks for all the links Ortho...


    Planet X Am I Going To Die?

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